31st January - 2nd February 2004
PTG
Tours
Papa Tango Gulf
Locos Used | CP : 1404, 1431, 1465, 1805 & 1962 RENFE : 1812 |
Route:
13851 Lisboa S.A. - Martingança
13853/13852 Martingança - Fontela
13855 Fontela - Porto C.
13811 Porto SB - Tui
36221 Tui - Vigo-Guixar
36220 Vigo-Guixar - Tui
13812 Tui - Porto SB
13813 Porto SB - Leixões
13814 Leixões - Lisboa S.A.
Date | Loco(s) | Route |
31/01 | 1805 | Lisboa Santa Apolónia - Entrecampos - Cacém - Mafra |
31/01 | 1465 | Mafra - Torres Vedras - Caldas da Raina - Martingança - Maceira |
31/01 | 1465 | Maceira - Martingança (run round loop outside station) |
31/01 | 1465 (2) | Martingança (run round loop) - Martingança (station) |
31/01 | 1465 | Martingança (station) - Leiria - Bif. Lares - Fontela |
31/01 | 1465 (1) | Fontela - Figuera da Foz Docks |
31/01 | 1431 (4) | Figueira da Foz Docks - Fontela |
01/02 | 1431 | Fontela - Alfarelos - Coimbra B - Aveiro - Porto Campanhã |
01/02 | 1962 | Porto São Bento - Nine - Viana do Castelo - Valença - Tui |
01/02 | 1812 | Tui – Guillarei avoiding line - Vigo Docks |
01/02 | 1812 | Vigo Docks – Guillarei avoiding line - Tui |
01/02 | 1962 | Tui - Valença - Viana do Castelo - Nine - Porto São Bento |
02/02 | 1404 | Porto Camapanhã - Ermesinde |
02/02 | 1404 | Leixões - Porto Camapanhã - Aveiro - Coimbra B - Pombal - Entroncamento - Lisboa Santa Apolónia |
Notes :
(1) 1805 failed at Mafra.
(2) Loco propelling.
(3) 1431 on rear.
(4) 1465 on rear.
Source : Janet Cottrell (Joined
at Lisboa S.A. left at Alfarelos on 2nd Feb)
Tour Review
(from Janet Cottrell)
This is one annual tour that we had taken to habitually booking on as soon as details were published. It is something of a social event in a warmer climate, plus the fact that it should give the opportunity for some major mileage (and thrash) with an 1801 class loco. Advance gen was that 1810 should produce and that it had been on a test run, but when we passed Barreiro en route to Lisbon it was sitting forlornly in a siding by the station. It turned out to be suffering from main generator problems (not surprising as it had been lying idle for the best part of two years) and the museum loco, 1805, had been hastily sent for and given the once over. Exactly the same had happened last year - so we were not surprised, although it was disappointing to think that we would never get 1810 in the book now. But be grateful for small mercies, at least there was an 1801 that still went even if it had not seen any use since over the previous twelve months.
Saturday 31st January
There was a rather late start of 1202 today.
Originally we had been booked out of Barreiro to Pinhal Novo to run round, then
to Lisbon via the fairly new link over the grandly named 25th April Bridge
across the river Tagus. This had been dropped from the itinerary at fairly short
notice, allegedly because there were no paths available but personally I think
it might have had more to do with engineering work as the line is far from
finished south of Fogueteiro.
When we arrived at Santa Apolónia station, 1805 was already in position on it's five coaches. There were many heads out of the window on departure savouring the moment as we threaded our way past the carriage sidings. We took the left hand turn towards Cacém at Xabregas Junction and steadily made our way up the hill. The driver seemed to be taking it rather carefully to start with, perhaps he did not want to thrash the loco too much following it's long rest, but there are a few speed restrictions along this stretch so maybe he was being careful.
Just to prove that CP can do some good timings when they put their mind to it, we dropped straight into a nice path between the many suburban units at Chelas. Apart from a strange "kink" in the line where the four tracks start (they obviously were meant to carry on but it looks like the money ran out) the line is well laid out with some good gradients and our driver soon started to put 1805 through it's paces. It certainly managed to wither many of the locals who probably wondered what on earth was going on, normally they only get the occasional 1401 class which is no match in the noise stakes. For those not familiar with Portugal this can be translated into compare class 40 or 50 with class 20.
At Cacém, we left the suburban line behind and started the climb towards Malveira. A letter had been handed out en route to Cacém explaining that PTG would not be running any more enthusiast tours in Portugal, so this would almost certainly be the last chance for any 1801 haulage. It was almost as if this letter precipitated something as we came to a stand in the loop at Mafra, some 50 minutes after leaving Lisbon. We were not booked to cross anything here, in fact the loop was "switched out" so something was going on - that something being a power earth fault on 1805. Despite ticking over quite happily, none of the combined brains of the CP staff and several professional British drivers could persuade the old girl to go - game over after a mere 37.1 kms. Speaking personally, I was half expecting 1805 to fail at some stage, as being stored uncovered in the open for a year does not do a diesel any good, even if it is given an exam before being sent out. It was a great shame that it expired after such a short distance. By this time lunch was being served in the restaurant car, so at least we had something to keep us occupied whilst waiting to be rescued and there was ample wine to drown our sorrows with.
It is worth noting that whatever else might one might think of CP, they showed commendable efficiency by sending a man out to open the passing loop in order to get the service trains past and round us.
Eventually the sound of a horn heralded the arrival of 1465, last seen acting as the station pilot back at Lisbon. This was a major clawback for me as had John and I not decided to bale out at Cacém off the Leiria IC last night we could have had it then. For some reason it was double headed with a passenger sector loco on the 1830 departure from Caldas, as the others who covered the IC last night took great delight in telling me.
Conveniently, lunch had just finished so it was out for more phots as 1805 was removed from the train and dumped in the loop by 1465 before the latter was re-attached to the sharp end. We eventually left some 2 1/2 hours late, with 1465 having to work hard to tow our five coaches up the rest of the steep gradient. The normal train length on this line is a mere two coaches.
Although we were now quite late, we carried on regardless with the two freight branches. Our timings were quite slack so we managed to claw back an hour by the time we reached Fontela, where it started to slip again. A few minutes were lost whilst 1431 was attached to the rear of our train to top and tail us into the docks, after which it was to work the tour to Porto. Eventually we entered the docks compound only to come to a stand after a very short distance when the driver on the rear loco started blowing merry hell on the horn. The shunter ran back but it only appeared that 1431's driver was anxious to be on his way to Porto ASAP, no doubt he was advised of the usual requirements of British cranks, so we carried onwards. Further time was lost when we had to set back slightly after going down a wrong road and a bit more when the driver on the leading engine had to be persuded to go right up to the buffer stops on our chosen siding. It should be mentioned that these new dock sidings had been built at considerable expense and opened just over a year ago, since when they have hardly been used.
Having gone far enough to satisfy the track bashers, we retraced our steps towards Fontela where more time ticked by waiting for a couple of units to pass on the mainline and even more time detaching 1465 back in Fontela station.
Finally, we struck out for Porto an hour and 53 minutes late and would have kept to our timings from there apart if it was not for a longer that scheduled stop at Alfarelos and a totally unscheduled stop at Coimbra B. I should point out that 1805 had been restricted to 100 kph and the tour timed accordingly, so the lower powered 1401's with 120kph max did not have too much trouble keeping time.
Sunday 1st
February
A sociable start to the day at 0950 and another
new engine, the rumours about a 1961 loco proved to be true. From being a tour
with just two booked locos it was now turning ino a spin and win, albeit with
rather too many passenger sector engines to be a true spinner. However, 1962 is
most definitely freight sector and very much required by John and myself,
although I am not sure about the rest of the train as I was told that it had
worked on a PTG tour in the past. Hopefully most people appreciated it as 1961's
on passenger have been like rocking horse droppings since CP was sectorised.
To the uninitiated, these beasts have the nickname of "dumper trucks" due to the exhaust sound when under power and when they are working hard they can be heard for miles. Five coaches was never going to tax 1962 but it was most enjoyable as it "dumped" it's way northwards.
New track for us from Valença over the border to Spain and we arrived at Tui to be greeted by immaculately restored ex RENFE ALCo number 1812. It's keepers had also brought along their equally immaculate class 277 electric loco for our edification. Built by English Electric at the Vulcan Foundry in 1953, both this and the ALCo were lined up with the scruffy 1962 for a photo call before we continued further into Spain.
The use of 1812 in Spain was an advertised part of the tour and quite a few ALCohaulics had turned up for the day just to sample this loco. Not having experienced this particular type of ALCo (model FPD-7) before, the best word I can think to describe it is hellfire - it sounds louder than the CP 1501 /1521 type which I have limited experience of.
We were booked and duly went into Vigo Docks where we were booked to stand for an hour and 45 minutes. Although PTG had been trying for some time to get this line in, I am sure that it would not have upset the timings too much if we had run round and left straight away and made our way to the main station for a quick look. If you really wanted to push the boat out why not take the museum's electric along for the ride to top and tail? It would have saved two run rounds and I am sure that John and I were not the only people who would rather have gone elsewhere after having a few minutes to phot the couple of diesels on hand in the yard.
The climb back from the docks was well worth waiting for, whoever was driving 1812 knew what was required and it was full power all the way back to the junction and plenty more thrash to enjoy en route back to Tui. All to soon we arrived there and it was time to swap back to 1962. The sun was shining and many more photographs were taken, especially when 1812 was revved up with an accompanying cloud of clag.
Much of the return journey was in darkness, one of the penalties of travelling this early in the year but overall it was an enjoyable day out with two rateable engines.
Monday 2nd
February
This morning was free time as CP had declined
PTG's request to visit Guimarães at short notice and the only alternatives that
had been arranged were a choice of escorted tours to the new Metro system, the
local trams or on a service train to Guimarães. The reason given was a
temporary ban on locomotives on the line until the relaid track had settled in.
The line between Lousado and Guimarães had been narrow gauge until October 1998
and had gradually been converted to broad gauge and electrified, until the whole
line finally reopened two weeks before the tour was booked to run. The tour was
to have been the first locomotive hauled passenger train over the line, the
normal service being operated by units.
As the line had been in various stages of rebuilding since before John and I started coming to Portugal, it was required track so we opted for the escorted tour on the service train to Guimarães. Some of our fellow travellers had covered the line when it was still narrow gauge and were bemoaning the loss of a charming line full of character, but it was impressive what had been achieved even if the end result was somewhat of a concrete jungle.
Back at Porto's Campanhã station our train had yet another loco, Vulcan Foundry built 1404 from Porto's passenger sector fleet. Rumour had it that one of the English built 1401's (1401 to 1410 were built at Newton le Willows and shipped out, whereas the rest were built under license by Sorefame in Lisbon) had been requested to take us back south. This would be an exceptionally rare outing for any of the class, a run up the full length of the electrified Porto to Lisbon main line.
First of all there was the small matter of the other "rare" bit of track advertised, the freight only line to the Docks at Leixões. This line was covered on the first tour that I went on in Portugal, but only via the south curve - the North curve from Ermesinde was not in use at the time due to resignalling work.
The special departed Campanhã station taking an unusual route via the "dive under" at the north end in order to get across to the normal northbound tracks. As we ran round at Ermesinde, we were joined by a couple of the tour participants who had used the morning to have a trip to Régua with the local 1401's.
More new track for us when we set off to São Gemil via the north curve, that now means that we have cleared all the currently available broad gauge track in Portugal apart from a couple of bits that only amount to little more than long sidings.
Lunch finished just in time for our arrival at the terminus. The closed station was still standing but surrounded by containers and other freight facilities, this did not stop most of the train from bailing out to take phots and explore the area.
As Leixões is at sea level, there is a steep climb back up to the main line, so it was heads out of the window time as we forged up the gradient causing a few locals to stop and stare. Just as we thrashed away from São Gemil, the brakes went in and we came to a grinding halt. Somebody reckoned that we had hit something as debris was seen flying from the wheels, but fortunately it must have been something minor as we were soon on our way after a cursory inspection.
There was a short break at Campanhã station whilst an IC train departed south, we followed it some ten minutes later at a slightly lower speed. Progress was steady, but interrupted a couple of times to start with due to what appeared to be the Portuguese equivalent of TPWS making unsolicited brake applications.
All to soon it seemed, John and I had to depart at Alfarelos. We had already decided to return to Porto and spend some time there and the late arrival at Lisbon made it rather difficult to get back if we went any further south. There was enough time to walk alongside the main line for a short way and take a final photograph of the tour as it departed up the hill, before returning for our unlovely refurbished unit back to Coimbra.
In conclusion I have conclude that the tour was as enjoyable as usual despite the loss of 1805 at such an early stage. One thing that I could have done without was the lunchtime start on two of the days. It would have been preferable to try and go somewhere where our train was allowed to run, no matter how run of the mill or even start earlier in order to avoid the relatively late finishes.
Janet Cottrell
Timings (Booked & Actual)
(from Janet Cottrell)
Saturday 31st January:
Location | Booked | Actual |
Lisboa St. Apolónia | 12.02d | 12.02 |
Entrecampos | 12.12a ~ 12.14 | 12.14 ~ 12.16 |
Cacém | 12.31a ~ 12.36d | 12.33 ~ 12.36 |
Mafra | 12/50 | 12.53a ~ 15.19d |
Malveira | 12/56 | 15.27a ~ 15.40d |
Pero Negro | 13.04a ~ 13.14 | 15.50 ~ 15.51 |
Outeiro | 13/40 | 16/15 |
Bombarral | 13.47a ~ 14.17d | 16.21 ~ 16.22 |
Caldas da Rainha | 14.30a ~ 14.40d | 16.37 ~ 16.38 |
São Martino do Porto | 14.49a ~ 14.51d | 16/47 |
Valado | 15/01 | 16/57 |
Martingança | 15.12a | 17.09a |
Martingança | ?? | 17.15d |
Maceira | ?? | 17.23a ~ 17.37d |
Martingança | 16.20d | 17.57a ~ 18.08d |
Leiria | 16/31 | 18/19 |
Bif. Lares | 17/27 | 18.56a ~ 18.57d |
Fontela | 17.33a | 19.03 |
Figueira da Foz Docks | ?? | 19.36a ~ 19.38d |
Fontela | 18.18d | 20.02a ~ 20.11d |
Verride | 18.34a ~ 18.36d | 20.20 ~ 20.24 |
Alfarelos | 18.45a ~ 18.47d | 20.32 ~ 20.36 |
Coimbra B | 19/02 | 20.54a ~ 21.03d |
Aveiro | 19.38a ~ 19.43d | 21.41 ~ 21.42 |
Ovar | 20.04a ~ 20.09d | 22.06 ~ 22.07 |
Porto Campanhã | 20.40a | 22.37 |
Sunday 1st February:
Location | Booked | Actual |
Porto São Bento | 09.50d | 09.51 |
Porto Campanhã | 09.55a ~ 09.56d | 09.56 ~ 09.58 |
Ermesinde | 10/05 | 10/08 |
Nine | 10/36 | 10/47 |
Barcelos | 10.45a ~ 10.50d | 10.58 ~ 11.05 |
Viana do Castelo | 11.24a ~ 11.54d | 11.37 ~ 11.59 |
Caminha | 12/16 | 12/20 |
Valença | 12.34a ~ 12.36d | 12.38 ~ 12.40 |
Tui | 12.43a | 12.45 |
Time changes to CET | ||
Tui | 14.15d | 14.15 |
Redondela | 14/43 | ? |
Vigo-Guixar | 14.55a ~ 16.40d | 14.58 ~ 16.43 |
Redondela | 16/51 | 16/55 |
Tui | 17.25a | 17.23 |
Time changes to GMT | ||
Tui | 16.51d | 16.55 |
Valença | 16.57a ~ 17.07d | 17.01 ~ 17.10 |
Viana do Castelo | 17/59 | 17/59 |
Barcelos | 18.40a ~ 19.04d | 18.40 ~ 19.05 |
Nine | 19.14a ~ 19.19d | 19.16 ~ 19.21 |
Trofa | 19/41 | 19/42 |
Ermesinde | 19.54a ~ 19.59d | 19.53 ~ 19.55 |
Porto Campanhã | 20.09a ~ 20.10d | 20.05 ~ 20.08 |
Porto São Bento | 20.15a | 20.14 |
Monday 2nd February:
Location | Booked | Actual |
Porto Campanhã | 12.30d | 12.31 |
Ermesinde | 12.43a ~ 12.58d | 12.42 ~ 13.01 |
Leixões | 13.46a ~ 14.20d | 13.47 ~ 14.21 |
Porto Campanhã | 14.52a ~ 15.15d | 14.57 ~ 15.16 |
Espinho | 15.36a ~ 15.41d | 15.37 ~ 15.41 |
Aveiro | 16.18a ~ 16.30d | 16.19 ~ 16.30 |
Coimbra B | 17/13 | 17/13 |
Alfarelos | 17.31a ~ 17.44d | 17.31 ~ 17.45 |
Pombal Resg | 18.09a ~ 18.21d | ? |
Fungalvaz Resg | 18.57a ~ 19.06d | ? |
Entroncamento | 19/22 | ? |
Santarém | 19/45 | ? |
Vila Franca da Xira | 20/36 | ? |
Alverca | 20/44 | ? |
Lisboa Oriente | 20.55a ~ 21.06d | ? |
Lisboa St. Apolónia | 21.13a | ? |
Kilometres (from Roj Fraser):
Saturday 31st January 2004 km
Loco | train ID | Train | Km |
1805 | 13851 | 12:02 Lisboa Santa Apolónia-Martingança | 37.68 |
1465 | 13851 | 12:02 Lisboa Santa Apolónia-Martingança | 111.42 |
1465 | ? | ??:?? Martingança-Maceira Cementos Liz | 4.54 |
1465 | ? | ??:?? Maceira Cementos Liz-Martingança | 4.54 |
1465 | 13853/13852 | 16:20 Martingança-Fontela | 67.40 |
1465 | ? | ??:?? Fontela-Figueira da Foz (Docks) | 2.99 |
1431 | ? | ??:?? Figueira da Foz (Docks)-Fontela | 2.89 |
1431 | 13855 | 18:18 Fontela-Porto Campanha | 157.27 |
Sunday 1st February 2004
Loco | train ID | Train | Km |
1962 | 13811 | 09:50 Porto São Bento-Tui | 136.80 |
1812 | 36221 | 14:15 Tui-Vigo Guixar | 38.48 |
1812 | 36220 | 16:40 Vigo Guixar-Tui | 38.44 |
1962 | 13812 | 16:51 Tui-Porto São Bento | 136.84 |
Monday 2nd February 2004
Loco | train ID | Train | Km |
1404 | 13813 | 12:30 Porto Campanha-Leixões | 26.89 |
1404 | 13814 | 14:20 Leixões-Lisboa Santa Apolónia | 356.99 |
Loco Totals (km)
1404 : 383.88
1431 : 160.16
1465 : 190.89
1805 : 37.68
1962 : 273.64
1812 : 76.92
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