23rd October 2004

Pathfinder Tours
The Cumbrian Mountain Express

Locos Used 67005 & steam: 45407 (running as 44996)
Stock Used ?????

Route:
1Z75 : Derby to Carlisle
1Z76 : Carlisle to Derby

Loco(s) Route
67005 Derby - North Stafford Jn - Uttoxeter - Stoke-on-Trent - Macclesfield - Cheadle Hulme - Stockport - Manchester Piccadilly - Castlefield Jn - Salford Crescent - Bolton - Chorley - Euxton Jn - Preston - (via WCML) - Carlisle
45407 (1)  Carlisle - (via S&C) - Hellifield - Clitheroe - Blackburn
67005 Blackburn - Farington Jn - Euxton Jn - (reverse of outward route) - Derby

Notes :
(1) 67005 on rear.

Sources : various

Brief Review
(by Duncan Jennings)

A pretty good day all in all despite starting about 80 late after the trainman failed to appear and we had to get a spare man taxi'd in from Crewe.


67005 on arrival into Carlisle (photo: Duncan Jennings)

Still, more farcical Notwork Snail timings and a good performance from 67005 left us only a little late leaving Carlisle where the single kettle (advertised a pair) proved to be ill equipped to keep time with load 10 + a dead 67 (ETHing merrily) and proceeded to lose more time. Still there was time (for a pint) in hand at Appleby and we left bang on time and promptly lost 12 minutes going up Ais Gill - it was a good noisy slog and Uncle Dick proudly declared it was probably the heaviest train taken up there by a single Black 5 in recent years, but it just served to underline the superiority of the diesel ticking over on the back end for me.


45407 (running as 44996) at Appleby (photo: Duncan Jennings)

Anyway, whatever your view we swapped back to the purple engine at Blackburn and headed back to Derby pulling back more time before a signal check outside Derby left us about 15 late at the finish.  I've now had over 800 miles off 67005, about 650 of them on 2 steam tours !  Wonder if I'll clear it next year?

Duncan Jennings

Timings (Booked & some Actuals)
(booked courtesy of Pathfinder Tours, actuals from Duncan Jennings)

M.C Location Booked Actual   Booked Actual M.C
0.00 Derby 07.02d ?   22.53a ? 112.34
4.64 Stenson Jn 07/09 ?   21/21 ? 107.50
5.28 North Stafford Jn 07/10 ?   21/19 21/31 107.06
11.25 Tutbury & Hatton 07.19a ~ 07.21d ?   21.10a ~ 21.12d ??.?? ~ 21.24 101.09
19.09 Uttoxeter 07.31a ~ 07.33d ??.?? ~ 08.50   20.58a ~ 21.00d 21.11 ~ 21.12 93.25
30.19 Blythe Bridge 07.47a ~ 07.49d ??.?? ~ 09.02   20.44a ~ 20.46d 20.56 ~ 20.58 82.15
31.22 Caverswall 07/52 ?   20/42 ? 81.12
33.47 Longton 07/55 ?   20/38 ? 78.67
35.41 Stoke Jn 07/58 ?   20/35 ? 76.73
35.74 Stoke-on-Trent 08.00a ~ 08.02d ??.?? ~ 09.20   20.31a ~ 20.33d 20.41 ~ 20.43 76.40
42.25 Kidsgrove 08/10 09/30   20/24 ? 70.09
47.79 Congleton 08.16a ~ 08.18d ??.?? ~ 09.36   20.09a ~ 20.11d 20.28 ~ 20.29 64.35
55.71 Macclesfield 08.29a ~ 08.31d 09.46 ~ 09.47   19.57a ~ 19.59d 20.16 ~ 20.19 56.43
65.47 Cheadle Hulme 08/42 10/03   19/46 ? 46.67
66.42 Adswood Road Jn 08/43 ?   19/45 ? 45.72
67.32 Edgeley Jn No.1 08/48 10/05   19/44 ? 45.02
67.77 Stockport 08.50a ~ 08.52d ??.?? ~ 10.12   19.40a ~ 19.42d 20.01 ~ 20.03 44.37
68.52 Heaton Norris North Jn 08/54 10/17   19/39 ? 43.62
71.42 Slade Lane Jn 08/57 ?   19/36 ? 40.72
73.09 Ardwick Jn 08/59 ?   19/34 ? 39.25
73.67 Manchester Piccadilly 09.02a ~ 09.04d 10.21 ~ 10.23   19.29a ~ 19.31d 19.47 ~ 19.50 38.47
74.30 Manchester Oxford Road 09/07 10/25   19/27 19/43 38.04
74.59 Deansgate 09/09 10/26   19/26 19/42 37.55
74.69 Castlefield Jn 09/10 ?   19/25 ? 37.45
75.30 Ordsall Lane Jn 09/11 ?   19/24 ? 37.04
76.12 Salford Crescent 09/13 10/29   19/21 19/38 36.22
83.37 Moses Gate 09/22 10/36   - 19/32 -
84.35 Burnden DPL 09*25a ~ 09*53d ?   - - -
85.01 Bolton 09.57a ~ 09.59d 10.39 ~ 10.40   19.04a ~ 19.07d ??.?? ~ 19.29 27.33
87.70 Lostock Jn 10/04 ?   19/00 19/22 24.44
96.47 Chorley 10/19 10/55   18/50 19/14 15.67
99.61 Euxton Jn 10/23 11/00   18/45 19/11 12.53

    

M.C/ Location Booked Actual
105.17 Preston 10.30a ~ 11.09d 11.12 ~ ??.??
126.15 Lancaster 11/28 11/47
128.07 Morecambe South Jn 11/29 ?
132.23 Carnforth North Jn 11/32 11/51
145.23 Oxenholme Lake District 11/43 12/02
157.72 Tebay 11/56 12/11
177.35 Penrith North Lakes 12/14 12/29
195.24
0.00
Carlisle 12L30a ~ 13L20d 12.43 ~ (13.35)
0.53 London Road Jn 13/22 ?
0.72 Petteril Bridge Jn 13/23 ?
8.29 Low House SB 13/46 13/58
23.29 Culgaith 14/11 ?
26.02 Kirby Thore SB 14/15 ?
30.62 Appleby 14w25a ~ 15w25d ??.?? ~ 15.25
41.44 Kirkby Stephen 15/45 15/46
51.29 Garsdale 16/02 16/14
59.45 Blea Moor 16/14 16/27
60.64 Ribblehead 16/17 ?
73.44 Settle Jn 16/37 16/48
75.43 Long Preston 16w42a ~ 17w12d 16.54 ~ 17.10
76.69 Hellifield 17/17 17.20 ~ 17.23
89.77 Horrocksford Jn 17/35 ?
90.17 Clitheroe 17/37 17/52
100.48 Daisyfield Jn 17/58 18/16
101.15
0.00
Blackburn 18L00a ~ 18L25d 18.19 ~ 18.53
9.00 Lostock Hall Jn 18/35 ?
9.77 Farington Jn 18/41 ?

Timings continue in first table.

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