23rd April 2022

Branch Line Society
The Ore No More

Locos Used (3) 50007 'Hercules' & 50008 'Thunderer'
Stock Used 9526+3146+3123+3110+1813+5009+4991+4998

Route :
1Z38 : Eastleigh - Reading - Portsmouth & Southsea
1Z40 : Portsmouth & Southsea to Bognor Regis
1Z42 : Bognor Regis to Littlehampton
1Z44 : Littlehampton to Brighton
1Z46 : Brighton - Hove - Preston Park - Brighton
1Z48 : Brighton to Newhaven Harbour (Quayside)
1Z50 : Newhaven Harbour (Quayside) - Haywards Heath - Eastbourne
1Z52 : Eastbourne to London Cannon Street
1Z54 : London Cannon Street - Southampton Central - Eastleigh

Loco(s) Route
50007 (1) Eastleigh - Winchester - Worting Jn - Basingstoke - Bramley - Southcote Jn - Reading
50008 (2) Reading - Southcote Jn - Bramley - Basingstoke - Worting Jn - Winchester - Eastleigh - Botley - Fareham - Cosham - Portcreek Jn - Fratton - Portsmouth & Southsea
50007 (1) Portsmouth & Southsea - Fratton - Portcreek Jn - Farlington Jn - Havant - Chichester - Barnham
50008 (2) Barnham - Bognor Regis
50007 (1) Bognor Regis - Barnham - Ford - Littlehampton
50008 (2) Littlehampton - Arundel Jn - Angmering - Worthing - Hove - Brighton
50007 (1) Brighton - Hove
50008 (2) Hove - Preston Park
50007 (1) Preston Park - Brighton
50008 (2) Brighton - Falmer - Lewes - Southerham Jn - Newhaven Town - Newhaven Harbour (Quayside)
50007 (1) Newhaven Harbour (Quayside) - Newhaven Town - Southerham Jn - Lewes - Keymer Jn - Haywards Heath
50008 (2) Haywards Heath - Keymer Jn - Lewes - Southerham Jn - Polegate - Willingdon Jn - Eastbourne
50007 (1) Eastbourne - Willingdon Jn - Polegate - Southerham Jn - Lewes - Keymer Jn - Haywards Heath - Three Bridges - Gatwick Airport - Earlswood (via Quarry Lines) - Stoats Nest Jn - Purley - East Croydon - Norwood Junction - New Cross Gate - London Bridge - London Cannon Street
50008 (2) London Cannon Street - London Bridge - New Cross Gate - Norwood Junction - East Croydon - Purley - Stoats Nest Jn - Redhill - Earlswood - Gatwick Airport - Three Bridges - Crawley - Horsham - Billingshurst - Pulborough - Arundel Jn - Ford - Chichester - Havant - Farlington Jn - Cosham - Fareham - Netley - St Denys - Southampton Central
50007 (1) Southampton Central - St Denys - Southampton Airport Parkway - Eastleigh

Notes :
(1) 50008 on rear.
(2)
50007 on rear.
(3) 50007 running numbered / named as 50034 'Furious', on one side only.
(4) John Clifford's comments: When this tour was originally advertised the route was to be: Eastleigh - Wallers Ash Loop - Basingstoke - Reading - Basingstoke - Eastleigh - Botley - Fareham - Portsmouth Harbour - Barnham - Bognor Regis - Littlehampton - Hove - Haywards Heath - Lewes - Newhaven - Brighton - Eastbourne - Hastings - Ore Up Siding - Hastings - Battle - Edenbridge - South Croydon - Quarry Line - Crawley - Havant - Netley - Southampton Central - Eastleigh. At that time the tour was named 'The Ore and More'. Route clearance work beyond Eastbourne could not be completed in time, so the route was changed to that shown in the timings. At the same time, since the tour was not going to Ore it was renamed 'The Ore No More'.  I joined the tour at Eastleigh after its return from Reading and got off at Eastleigh in the evening. I understand that there was a problem in the Reading West area and the train reversed in platform 8 at Reading. We set off from Eastleigh 6 minutes late and we stopped outside Fareham as the 07.27 Southampton Central - Portsmouth Harbour had gone in front of us, instead of being behind us. We followed the 07.27 and cut short the stop at Fratton to leave there early. At Blackfriars Jn we were held to let the 07.57 Portsmouth & Southsea- Littlehampton pass. After leaving Portsmouth & Southsea we saw the 08.11 Portsmouth Harbour - London Victoria pass us, and then followed it to Barnham. After reversing there we went to Bognor Regis for a short break, then it was onward to Littlehampton for a further reversal. We then followed the 10.13 Littlehampton - London Victoria along the coast. At Arundel Jn there was a short stop to let the 10.24 London Victoria - Portsmouth Harbour come off the Mid Sussex line. A pathing stop at Hove allowed the 11.03 Brighton - Portsmouth Harbour clear platform 2 at Brighton which we were due to use. Then it was back to Brighton (the other side) via Hove and Preston Park. Next was Newhaven Marine which we reached without problems and on to Haywards Heath for a further reversal before heading to Eastbourne. We reversed again and returned to Haywards Heath where we were routed into platform 1 instead of the expected platform 4. A stop at Copyhold Jn let the 14.13 Littlehampton - London Victoria pass. A pathing stop at Gatwick Airport allowed the 15.12 Brighton - Cambridge pass as well as two other trains from the South Coast. The rest of the run was uneventful and we arrived at Cannon Street a minute early. On the final leg of the tour we left Cannon Street slightly late. We were booked on the Slow Line from New Cross Gate and followed the 17.32 Highbury - West Croydon from there. At Windmill Bridge Jn we were held for the 18.09 London Victoria - Reigate to go ahead. We stopped at South Croydon as the 18.17 London Bridge - Caterham and Tattenham Corner was booked to precede us, which it did and we followed it to Purley. We duly ran the booked route via Redhill and from Earlswood we were behind the the 18.32 London Victoria - Eastbourne. After Three Bridges we caught up the 16.24 Peterborough - Horsham, which was 6 minutes late. A speedy run then ensued down the Mid Sussex line, which enabled the lateness to be reduced from 9½ minutes at Horsham to only 4 minutes late at Havant, then on time at Southampton Central. It seemed that there had been electrical problems on the South Western Main Line earlier. We were booked to follow the 19.20 Weymouth - London Waterloo from Southampton Central, which we did, but the 19.20 was 12 minutes late leaving there. Arrival at Eastleigh was 6 minutes late.

Source : John Clifford (on the tour from Eastleigh 07.10)

Photo Review


50008 arriving at Eastbourne (photo Simon Jeffs)


50007 departing from Eastbourne (photo Simon Jeffs)


Timings (Booked & Actual)
(from John Clifford & Realtime Trains)

Location Booked Actual
Eastleigh 05.08d [P2] [UF] 05.06
Shawford Jn 05/13 ?
Winchester 05/15½ [P1] 05/16
Wallers Ash Loop 05/20½ 05/20
Worting Jn 05/28½ [UF] 05/29
Basingstoke 05/30½ [P3] 05/32
Bramley 05/37½ 05/38
Southcote Jn 05/46 05/46
Oxford Road Jn 05/47½ [DFR] 06/06
Reading 05.50a ~ 05.58d [P14] [DFR] 06.08 ~ 06.14
Oxford Road Jn 06/06 06/16
Southcote Jn 06/09 06/18
Bramley 06/17½ 06/27
Basingstoke 06.31a ~ 06.34d [P1] [DS] 06.34 ~ 06.36
Worting Jn 06/38½ 06/40
Wallers Ash Loop 06*50½ ~ 06*51 [DPL] 06.53 ~ 06.55
Winchester 06/57 [P2] 07/01
Shawford Jn 06/59 [DF] 07/03
Eastleigh 07.04a ~ 07.07d [P3] 07.10½ ~ 07.13 [P3]
Eastleigh South Jn 07/09 07/16
Botley 07/14 07/21 [P2]
Fareham North Jn 07/20½ 07/28
Fareham Sig.E825 - 07.29 ~ 07.30
Fareham 07/21½ [P3] 07/32 [P3]
Cosham 07/32 07/41
Cosham Jn 07/33½ 07/42
Portcreek Jn 07/35½ 07/44½
Fratton East 07/39½ [DM] 07/50 [D&UF]
Fratton 07*41 ~ 07*59 [P3] 07.51 ~ 07.53 [P2] [D&UF]
Blackfriars Jn - 07.55 ~ 07.59
Portsmouth & Southsea 08.03a ~ 08.11d [P4] [UM] 08.02½ ~ 08.11½ [P4] [UM]
Fratton 08*15 ~ 08*22 [P1] 08.14 ~ 08.15 [P1]
Portcreek Jn 08/26 08/18½
Farlington Jn 08/28 08/19½
Havant 08/31 [P1] 08.29½ ~ 08.30 [P1]
Emsworth 08/35 08/33½ [P1]
Chichester 08/42½ [P1] 08/40 [P1]
Barnham 08.50 ~ 08.57 [P2] 08.48½ ~ 08.55½ [P2]
Bognor Regis 09.10a ~ 09.48d [P1] 09.04 ~ 09.48½ [P1]
Barnham 09/56 [P1] 09/56 [P1]
Ford 10/00 [P1] 10/00 [P1]
Littlehampton Jn 10/03½ 10/02
Littlehampton 10.08a ~ 10.20d [P1] 10.06 ~ 10.20 [P1]
Littlehampton Jn 10/23 10/24½
Arundel Jn 10/25 10.26 ~ 10.27½
Angmering 10/29 10/34 [P1]
West Worthing 10/33 10/38 [P1]
Worthing 10/39½ [P2] 10/39 [P2]
Shoreham-by-Sea 10/46½ [P1] 10/46½ [P1]
Hove 10*54 ~ 11*04 [P2] 10.56 ~ 11.05 [P2]
Brighton 11.08a ~ 11.17d [P2] 11.10 ~ 11.18 [P2]
Hove 11.24 ~ 11.34 [P2] 11.24 ~ 11.34½ [P2]
Preston Park 11.40 ~ 11.49 [P1] 11.39 ~ 11.48½ [P1]
Sig.T435 - 11.52 ~ 11.53
Brighton 11.54a ~ 12.04d [P7] 11.55½ ~ 12.05½ [P7]
Falmer 12/12 12/13 [P2]
Lewes 12/20 [P3] 12/22 [P3]
Southerham Jn 12/26 12/25
Newhaven Town 12/33 12/33½ [P2]
Newhaven Harbour 12/37 12/35 [P1]
Newhaven Marine (Quayside) 12.40 ~ 12.52 12.37 ~ 12.48
Newhaven Harbour 12/54 12/49½ [P2]
Newhaven Town 12/56 12/51 [P1]
Southerham Jn 13/03 13/00½
Lewes 13/07 [P2] 13/04 [P2]
Keymer Jn 13/18 13/21½
Haywards Heath 13.24a ~ 13.34d [P1] 13.27 ~ 13.35 [P1]
Keymer Jn 13/39 13.42 ~ 13.42½
Lewes 13/50½ [P1] 13/55 [P1]
Southerham Jn 13/54 13/57
Polegate 14/06 14/08 [P2]
Willingdon Jn 14/10 14/11
Eastbourne 14.15a ~ 14.30d [P1] 14.15 ~ 14.30 [P1]
Willingdon Jn 14/34 14/36
Polegate 14/36½ 14/38½ [P1]
Southerham Jn 14/47 14/49
Lewes 14/49 [P2] 14/51 [P2]
Keymer Jn 15/02 15/02½
Haywards Heath 15*06 ~ 15*11 [P4] [ULH] 15.07½ ~ 15.08½ [P1]
Copyhold Jn 15/15½ 15.11½ ~ 15.15
Balcombe Tunnel Jn 15/22½ [US] 15/23 [US]
Three Bridges 15/24½ [P2] 15/26 [P2] [US]
Gatwick Airport 15*29 ~ 15*46½ [P2] 15.31 ~ 15.44 [P2] [US]
Earlswood 15/55 [P1] [QL] 15/51½ [P1] [QL]
Stoats Nest Jn 16/02 [UF] 16/00 [UF]
Purley 16/03 [P1] 16/01 [P1] [UF]
East Croydon 16/05½ [P2] [UF] 16/03½ [P2] [UF]
Windmill Bridge Jn 16/06½ [UF] 16/04½ [UF]
Norwood Junction 16/09 [P3] [UF] 16/07 [P3] [UF]
Sydenham 16/12½ [UF] 16/09½ [UF]
New Cross Gate 16/17½ [P4] 16/12 [P4] [UF]
Bricklayers Arms Jn 16/18½ 16/13
Blue Anchor 16/20 [L5] 16/14½ [L5]
London Bridge 16/24 [P3] 16.20 ~ 16.23 [P3]
Borough Market Jn 16/25½ [RVD] 16/24½ [RVD]
London Cannon Street 16.28a ~ 17.52d [P6] [CND] 16.27 ~ 17.53½ [P6] [REV]
Borough Market Jn 17/54 17/56
London Bridge 17/55½ [P3] [L4] 17/57 [P3] [L4]
Corbetts Lane Jn 17/58½ [FL] 18/00 [FL]
Bricklayers Arms Jn 18/01 [SL] 18/00½ [SL]
New Cross Gate 18/03½ [P2] 18.02 ~ 18.03 [P2] [DS]
Sydenham 18/14 [P2] [DS] 18/13 [P2] [DS]
Norwood Junction 18/21½ [P5] [DS] 18/21 [P5] [DS]
Windmill Bridge Jn 18/27½ [DS] 18.26 ~ 18.28 [DS]
East Croydon 18.29½a ~ 18.35d [P5] 18.32 ~ 18.33 [P5] [SREV]
South Croydon 18/37½ [P5] 18.38 ~ 18.40 [P4] [DS]
Purley 18/44 [P4] 18/46 [P4] [DS]
Stoats Nest Jn 18/45 [DS] 18/47
Coulsdon South 18/46 18/48 [P2]
Merstham 18/49½ 18/51½ [P2]
Redhill 18/52½ [DM] 18/53½ [DM]
Earlswood 18/55 [P2] 18/56 [P2] [DS]
Gatwick Airport 19/02 [P3] 19/06 [P3] [DS]
Three Bridges 19/05½ [P3] 19/12 [P3]
Crawley 19/08 19.15½ ~ 19.16 [P2]
Horsham 19/18½ [P3] 19/28 [P3]
Billingshurst 19/26 19/36 [P2]
Pulborough 19/31 19/41 [P2]
Arundel Jn 19/44 19/52
Ford 19/47 [P2] 19/53½ [P2]
Barnham 19/51 [P2] 19/58 [P2]
Chichester 20/00 [P2] 20/06 [P2]
Emsworth 20/09 20/13 [P2]
Havant 20.13a ~ 20.15d [P2] 20.17  ~ 20.18 [P2]
Farlington Jn 20/19 20/24
Cosham Jn 20/20 20/25
Cosham 20/22 20/26
Fareham 20/31 [P1] 20/33 [P1]
Netley    
St Denys 20/51 [P4] [DF] 20/50½ [P4] [DF]
Northam Jn 20/53 20/53
Southampton Central 20.56a ~ 21.11d [P3] 20.56 ~ 21.14 [P3] [DL]
Northam Jn 21/13½ [UF] 21/18½ [UF]
St Denys 21/15½ [P1] 21/20½ [P1]
Southampton Airport Parkway 21/17½ [P1] [US] 21/24 [P1] [UF]
Eastleigh 21.22a [P2] 21.28 [P2]


Associated E.C.S. Workings

23/04/22 :
5Z38 : (50007 with 50008 on rear) : Eastleigh T&RSMD to Eastleigh

Location Booked
Eastleigh T&RSMD 04.45d
Eastleigh South Jn 04/53
Eastleigh 04.56a [P2]

5Z54 : (50008 with 50008 on rear) : Eastleigh to Eastleigh T&RSMD

Location Booked
Eastleigh 21.32d [P2]
Eastleigh South Jn 21/35
Eastleigh T&RSMD 21.47a

24/04/22 :
5Z55 : (50007 + 50008 + tour stock) : Eastleigh T&RSMD to Kidderminster [DGL]
5Z55 : (50008 + tour stock) : Kidderminster [DGL] to Burton Wetmore Sidings

Location Booked
Eastleigh T&RSMD 13.50d
Eastleigh Depot Exit 13.52 ~ 13.52
Eastleigh 13.55 ~ 13.57 [P2]
Shawford Jn 14/02
Winchester 14/04
Wallers Ash Loop 14/09
Worting Jn 14/17
Basingstoke 14/20
Bramley 14/27
Southcote Jn 14/35
Oxford Road Jn 14/37
Reading West Jn 14/41 [DR]
Goring & Streatley 14/48
Didcot East Jn 14/57
Didcot Parkway 14*59 ~ 15*00 [P3]
Wantage Road 15/08
Challow 15*11 ~ 15*29 [DR]
Uffington 15/33
Swindon 15/42 [P3]
Rodbourne Jn 15/44
Kemble 15/55
St Mary's LC 16/05
Stroud 16/11
Standish Jn 16/21
Gloucester Yard Jn 16/28
Barnwood Jn 16/33
Cheltenham Spa 16/40 [P2]
Ashchurch for Tewkesbury 16/46
Abbotswood Jn 16/54
Norton Jn 16/59
Worcester Shrub Hill 17c05 ~ 17c07 [P1]
Tunnel Jn 17/09
Droitwich Spa 17/14
Hartlebury 17/20
Kidderminster Loop 17L24 ~ 18L24 [DGL]
Kidderminster 18/26
Blakedown 18/30
Stourbridge Junction 18/35
Rowley Regis 18/43
Rowley Regis Loop 18*46 ~ 19*10 [UGL]
Smethwick Jn 19/16
Galton Jn 19/17
Soho North Jn 19/19
Soho East Jn 19/21
Perry Barr West Jn 19/25
Perry Barr North Jn 19/26
Bescot Stadium 19c32 ~ 19c34 [P2]
Pleck Jn 19/36
Walsall 19/38
Ryecroft Jn 19/40
Sutton Park 19/52
Park Lane Jn 19/58
Water Orton West Jn 20/01
Water Orton 20/03
Kingsbury Jn 20/07
Tamworth HL 20c15 ~ 20c17 [P3]
Wichnor Jn 20/24
Burton-on-Trent 20.31 ~ 20.33 [UGL]
Wetmore Jn 20.38 ~ 20.45
Burton Wetmore Sidings 20.50a


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