23rd April 2022
Branch Line Society
The Ore No More
Locos Used (3) | 50007 'Hercules' & 50008 'Thunderer' |
Stock Used | 9526+3146+3123+3110+1813+5009+4991+4998 |
Route :
1Z38 : Eastleigh - Reading - Portsmouth & Southsea
1Z40 : Portsmouth & Southsea to Bognor Regis
1Z42 : Bognor Regis to Littlehampton
1Z44 : Littlehampton to Brighton
1Z46 : Brighton - Hove - Preston Park - Brighton
1Z48 : Brighton to Newhaven Harbour (Quayside)
1Z50 : Newhaven Harbour (Quayside) - Haywards Heath - Eastbourne
1Z52 : Eastbourne to London Cannon Street
1Z54 : London Cannon Street - Southampton Central - Eastleigh
Loco(s) | Route |
50007 (1) | Eastleigh - Winchester - Worting Jn - Basingstoke - Bramley - Southcote Jn - Reading |
50008 (2) | Reading - Southcote Jn - Bramley - Basingstoke - Worting Jn - Winchester - Eastleigh - Botley - Fareham - Cosham - Portcreek Jn - Fratton - Portsmouth & Southsea |
50007 (1) | Portsmouth & Southsea - Fratton - Portcreek Jn - Farlington Jn - Havant - Chichester - Barnham |
50008 (2) | Barnham - Bognor Regis |
50007 (1) | Bognor Regis - Barnham - Ford - Littlehampton |
50008 (2) | Littlehampton - Arundel Jn - Angmering - Worthing - Hove - Brighton |
50007 (1) | Brighton - Hove |
50008 (2) | Hove - Preston Park |
50007 (1) | Preston Park - Brighton |
50008 (2) | Brighton - Falmer - Lewes - Southerham Jn - Newhaven Town - Newhaven Harbour (Quayside) |
50007 (1) | Newhaven Harbour (Quayside) - Newhaven Town - Southerham Jn - Lewes - Keymer Jn - Haywards Heath |
50008 (2) | Haywards Heath - Keymer Jn - Lewes - Southerham Jn - Polegate - Willingdon Jn - Eastbourne |
50007 (1) | Eastbourne - Willingdon Jn - Polegate - Southerham Jn - Lewes - Keymer Jn - Haywards Heath - Three Bridges - Gatwick Airport - Earlswood (via Quarry Lines) - Stoats Nest Jn - Purley - East Croydon - Norwood Junction - New Cross Gate - London Bridge - London Cannon Street |
50008 (2) | London Cannon Street - London Bridge - New Cross Gate - Norwood Junction - East Croydon - Purley - Stoats Nest Jn - Redhill - Earlswood - Gatwick Airport - Three Bridges - Crawley - Horsham - Billingshurst - Pulborough - Arundel Jn - Ford - Chichester - Havant - Farlington Jn - Cosham - Fareham - Netley - St Denys - Southampton Central |
50007 (1) | Southampton Central - St Denys - Southampton Airport Parkway - Eastleigh |
Notes :
(1) 50008 on rear.
(2) 50007 on rear.
(3) 50007 running numbered / named as 50034 'Furious', on one side
only.
(4) John Clifford's comments: When this tour was
originally advertised the route was to be: Eastleigh - Wallers Ash Loop -
Basingstoke - Reading - Basingstoke - Eastleigh - Botley - Fareham - Portsmouth
Harbour - Barnham - Bognor Regis - Littlehampton - Hove - Haywards Heath - Lewes
- Newhaven - Brighton - Eastbourne - Hastings - Ore Up Siding - Hastings -
Battle - Edenbridge - South Croydon - Quarry Line - Crawley - Havant - Netley -
Southampton Central - Eastleigh. At that time the tour was named 'The Ore and
More'. Route clearance work beyond Eastbourne could not be completed in time, so
the route was changed to that shown in the timings. At the same time, since the
tour was not going to Ore it was renamed 'The Ore No More'.
I joined the tour at Eastleigh after its return from Reading and got off at
Eastleigh in the evening. I understand that there was a problem in the Reading
West area and the train reversed in platform 8 at Reading. We set off from
Eastleigh 6 minutes late and we stopped outside Fareham as the 07.27 Southampton
Central - Portsmouth Harbour had gone in front of us, instead of being behind
us. We followed the 07.27 and cut short the stop at Fratton to leave there
early. At Blackfriars Jn we were held to let the 07.57 Portsmouth & Southsea-
Littlehampton pass. After leaving Portsmouth & Southsea we saw the 08.11
Portsmouth Harbour - London Victoria pass us, and then followed it to Barnham.
After reversing there we went to Bognor Regis for a short break, then it was
onward to Littlehampton for a further reversal. We then followed the 10.13
Littlehampton - London Victoria along the coast. At Arundel Jn there was a short
stop to let the 10.24 London Victoria - Portsmouth Harbour come off the Mid
Sussex line. A pathing stop at Hove allowed the 11.03 Brighton - Portsmouth
Harbour clear platform 2 at Brighton which we were due to use. Then it was back
to Brighton (the other side) via Hove and Preston Park. Next was Newhaven Marine
which we reached without problems and on to Haywards Heath for a further
reversal before heading to Eastbourne. We reversed again and returned to
Haywards Heath where we were routed into platform 1 instead of the expected
platform 4. A stop at Copyhold Jn let the 14.13 Littlehampton - London Victoria
pass. A pathing stop at Gatwick Airport allowed the 15.12 Brighton - Cambridge
pass as well as two other trains from the South Coast. The rest of the run was
uneventful and we arrived at Cannon Street a minute early.
On the final leg of the tour we left Cannon Street slightly late. We were booked
on the Slow Line from New Cross Gate and followed the 17.32 Highbury - West
Croydon from there. At Windmill Bridge Jn we were held for the 18.09 London
Victoria - Reigate to go ahead. We stopped at South Croydon as the 18.17 London
Bridge - Caterham and Tattenham Corner was booked to precede us, which it did
and we followed it to Purley. We duly ran the booked route via Redhill and from
Earlswood we were behind the the 18.32 London Victoria - Eastbourne. After Three
Bridges we caught up the 16.24 Peterborough - Horsham, which was 6 minutes late.
A speedy run then ensued down the Mid Sussex line, which enabled the lateness to
be reduced from 9½ minutes at Horsham to only 4
minutes late at Havant, then on time at Southampton Central. It seemed that
there had been electrical problems on the South Western Main Line earlier. We
were booked to follow the 19.20 Weymouth - London Waterloo from Southampton
Central, which we did, but the 19.20 was 12 minutes late leaving there. Arrival
at Eastleigh was 6 minutes late.
Source : John Clifford (on the tour from Eastleigh 07.10)
Photo Review
50008 arriving at Eastbourne (photo Simon Jeffs)
50007 departing from Eastbourne (photo Simon Jeffs)
Timings (Booked & Actual)
(from John Clifford & Realtime Trains)
Location | Booked | Actual |
Eastleigh | 05.08d [P2] [UF] | 05.06 |
Shawford Jn | 05/13 | ? |
Winchester | 05/15½ [P1] | 05/16 |
Wallers Ash Loop | 05/20½ | 05/20 |
Worting Jn | 05/28½ [UF] | 05/29 |
Basingstoke | 05/30½ [P3] | 05/32 |
Bramley | 05/37½ | 05/38 |
Southcote Jn | 05/46 | 05/46 |
Oxford Road Jn | 05/47½ [DFR] | 06/06 |
Reading | 05.50a ~ 05.58d [P14] [DFR] | 06.08 ~ 06.14 |
Oxford Road Jn | 06/06 | 06/16 |
Southcote Jn | 06/09 | 06/18 |
Bramley | 06/17½ | 06/27 |
Basingstoke | 06.31a ~ 06.34d [P1] [DS] | 06.34 ~ 06.36 |
Worting Jn | 06/38½ | 06/40 |
Wallers Ash Loop | 06*50½ ~ 06*51 [DPL] | 06.53 ~ 06.55 |
Winchester | 06/57 [P2] | 07/01 |
Shawford Jn | 06/59 [DF] | 07/03 |
Eastleigh | 07.04a ~ 07.07d [P3] | 07.10½ ~ 07.13 [P3] |
Eastleigh South Jn | 07/09 | 07/16 |
Botley | 07/14 | 07/21 [P2] |
Fareham North Jn | 07/20½ | 07/28 |
Fareham Sig.E825 | - | 07.29 ~ 07.30 |
Fareham | 07/21½ [P3] | 07/32 [P3] |
Cosham | 07/32 | 07/41 |
Cosham Jn | 07/33½ | 07/42 |
Portcreek Jn | 07/35½ | 07/44½ |
Fratton East | 07/39½ [DM] | 07/50 [D&UF] |
Fratton | 07*41 ~ 07*59 [P3] | 07.51 ~ 07.53 [P2] [D&UF] |
Blackfriars Jn | - | 07.55 ~ 07.59 |
Portsmouth & Southsea | 08.03a ~ 08.11d [P4] [UM] | 08.02½ ~ 08.11½ [P4] [UM] |
Fratton | 08*15 ~ 08*22 [P1] | 08.14 ~ 08.15 [P1] |
Portcreek Jn | 08/26 | 08/18½ |
Farlington Jn | 08/28 | 08/19½ |
Havant | 08/31 [P1] | 08.29½ ~ 08.30 [P1] |
Emsworth | 08/35 | 08/33½ [P1] |
Chichester | 08/42½ [P1] | 08/40 [P1] |
Barnham | 08.50 ~ 08.57 [P2] | 08.48½ ~ 08.55½ [P2] |
Bognor Regis | 09.10a ~ 09.48d [P1] | 09.04 ~ 09.48½ [P1] |
Barnham | 09/56 [P1] | 09/56 [P1] |
Ford | 10/00 [P1] | 10/00 [P1] |
Littlehampton Jn | 10/03½ | 10/02 |
Littlehampton | 10.08a ~ 10.20d [P1] | 10.06 ~ 10.20 [P1] |
Littlehampton Jn | 10/23 | 10/24½ |
Arundel Jn | 10/25 | 10.26 ~ 10.27½ |
Angmering | 10/29 | 10/34 [P1] |
West Worthing | 10/33 | 10/38 [P1] |
Worthing | 10/39½ [P2] | 10/39 [P2] |
Shoreham-by-Sea | 10/46½ [P1] | 10/46½ [P1] |
Hove | 10*54 ~ 11*04 [P2] | 10.56 ~ 11.05 [P2] |
Brighton | 11.08a ~ 11.17d [P2] | 11.10 ~ 11.18 [P2] |
Hove | 11.24 ~ 11.34 [P2] | 11.24 ~ 11.34½ [P2] |
Preston Park | 11.40 ~ 11.49 [P1] | 11.39 ~ 11.48½ [P1] |
Sig.T435 | - | 11.52 ~ 11.53 |
Brighton | 11.54a ~ 12.04d [P7] | 11.55½ ~ 12.05½ [P7] |
Falmer | 12/12 | 12/13 [P2] |
Lewes | 12/20 [P3] | 12/22 [P3] |
Southerham Jn | 12/26 | 12/25 |
Newhaven Town | 12/33 | 12/33½ [P2] |
Newhaven Harbour | 12/37 | 12/35 [P1] |
Newhaven Marine (Quayside) | 12.40 ~ 12.52 | 12.37 ~ 12.48 |
Newhaven Harbour | 12/54 | 12/49½ [P2] |
Newhaven Town | 12/56 | 12/51 [P1] |
Southerham Jn | 13/03 | 13/00½ |
Lewes | 13/07 [P2] | 13/04 [P2] |
Keymer Jn | 13/18 | 13/21½ |
Haywards Heath | 13.24a ~ 13.34d [P1] | 13.27 ~ 13.35 [P1] |
Keymer Jn | 13/39 | 13.42 ~ 13.42½ |
Lewes | 13/50½ [P1] | 13/55 [P1] |
Southerham Jn | 13/54 | 13/57 |
Polegate | 14/06 | 14/08 [P2] |
Willingdon Jn | 14/10 | 14/11 |
Eastbourne | 14.15a ~ 14.30d [P1] | 14.15 ~ 14.30 [P1] |
Willingdon Jn | 14/34 | 14/36 |
Polegate | 14/36½ | 14/38½ [P1] |
Southerham Jn | 14/47 | 14/49 |
Lewes | 14/49 [P2] | 14/51 [P2] |
Keymer Jn | 15/02 | 15/02½ |
Haywards Heath | 15*06 ~ 15*11 [P4] [ULH] | 15.07½ ~ 15.08½ [P1] |
Copyhold Jn | 15/15½ | 15.11½ ~ 15.15 |
Balcombe Tunnel Jn | 15/22½ [US] | 15/23 [US] |
Three Bridges | 15/24½ [P2] | 15/26 [P2] [US] |
Gatwick Airport | 15*29 ~ 15*46½ [P2] | 15.31 ~ 15.44 [P2] [US] |
Earlswood | 15/55 [P1] [QL] | 15/51½ [P1] [QL] |
Stoats Nest Jn | 16/02 [UF] | 16/00 [UF] |
Purley | 16/03 [P1] | 16/01 [P1] [UF] |
East Croydon | 16/05½ [P2] [UF] | 16/03½ [P2] [UF] |
Windmill Bridge Jn | 16/06½ [UF] | 16/04½ [UF] |
Norwood Junction | 16/09 [P3] [UF] | 16/07 [P3] [UF] |
Sydenham | 16/12½ [UF] | 16/09½ [UF] |
New Cross Gate | 16/17½ [P4] | 16/12 [P4] [UF] |
Bricklayers Arms Jn | 16/18½ | 16/13 |
Blue Anchor | 16/20 [L5] | 16/14½ [L5] |
London Bridge | 16/24 [P3] | 16.20 ~ 16.23 [P3] |
Borough Market Jn | 16/25½ [RVD] | 16/24½ [RVD] |
London Cannon Street | 16.28a ~ 17.52d [P6] [CND] | 16.27 ~ 17.53½ [P6] [REV] |
Borough Market Jn | 17/54 | 17/56 |
London Bridge | 17/55½ [P3] [L4] | 17/57 [P3] [L4] |
Corbetts Lane Jn | 17/58½ [FL] | 18/00 [FL] |
Bricklayers Arms Jn | 18/01 [SL] | 18/00½ [SL] |
New Cross Gate | 18/03½ [P2] | 18.02 ~ 18.03 [P2] [DS] |
Sydenham | 18/14 [P2] [DS] | 18/13 [P2] [DS] |
Norwood Junction | 18/21½ [P5] [DS] | 18/21 [P5] [DS] |
Windmill Bridge Jn | 18/27½ [DS] | 18.26 ~ 18.28 [DS] |
East Croydon | 18.29½a ~ 18.35d [P5] | 18.32 ~ 18.33 [P5] [SREV] |
South Croydon | 18/37½ [P5] | 18.38 ~ 18.40 [P4] [DS] |
Purley | 18/44 [P4] | 18/46 [P4] [DS] |
Stoats Nest Jn | 18/45 [DS] | 18/47 |
Coulsdon South | 18/46 | 18/48 [P2] |
Merstham | 18/49½ | 18/51½ [P2] |
Redhill | 18/52½ [DM] | 18/53½ [DM] |
Earlswood | 18/55 [P2] | 18/56 [P2] [DS] |
Gatwick Airport | 19/02 [P3] | 19/06 [P3] [DS] |
Three Bridges | 19/05½ [P3] | 19/12 [P3] |
Crawley | 19/08 | 19.15½ ~ 19.16 [P2] |
Horsham | 19/18½ [P3] | 19/28 [P3] |
Billingshurst | 19/26 | 19/36 [P2] |
Pulborough | 19/31 | 19/41 [P2] |
Arundel Jn | 19/44 | 19/52 |
Ford | 19/47 [P2] | 19/53½ [P2] |
Barnham | 19/51 [P2] | 19/58 [P2] |
Chichester | 20/00 [P2] | 20/06 [P2] |
Emsworth | 20/09 | 20/13 [P2] |
Havant | 20.13a ~ 20.15d [P2] | 20.17 ~ 20.18 [P2] |
Farlington Jn | 20/19 | 20/24 |
Cosham Jn | 20/20 | 20/25 |
Cosham | 20/22 | 20/26 |
Fareham | 20/31 [P1] | 20/33 [P1] |
Netley | ||
St Denys | 20/51 [P4] [DF] | 20/50½ [P4] [DF] |
Northam Jn | 20/53 | 20/53 |
Southampton Central | 20.56a ~ 21.11d [P3] | 20.56 ~ 21.14 [P3] [DL] |
Northam Jn | 21/13½ [UF] | 21/18½ [UF] |
St Denys | 21/15½ [P1] | 21/20½ [P1] |
Southampton Airport Parkway | 21/17½ [P1] [US] | 21/24 [P1] [UF] |
Eastleigh | 21.22a [P2] | 21.28 [P2] |
Associated E.C.S. Workings
23/04/22 :
5Z38 : (50007 with 50008 on rear) :
Eastleigh T&RSMD to Eastleigh
Location | Booked |
Eastleigh T&RSMD | 04.45d |
Eastleigh South Jn | 04/53 |
Eastleigh | 04.56a [P2] |
5Z54 : (50008 with 50008 on rear) : Eastleigh to Eastleigh T&RSMD
Location | Booked |
Eastleigh | 21.32d [P2] |
Eastleigh South Jn | 21/35 |
Eastleigh T&RSMD | 21.47a |
24/04/22 :
5Z55 : (50007 + 50008 + tour stock) :
Eastleigh T&RSMD to Kidderminster [DGL]
5Z55 : (50008 + tour stock) :
Kidderminster [DGL] to Burton Wetmore Sidings
Location | Booked |
Eastleigh T&RSMD | 13.50d |
Eastleigh Depot Exit | 13.52 ~ 13.52 |
Eastleigh | 13.55 ~ 13.57 [P2] |
Shawford Jn | 14/02 |
Winchester | 14/04 |
Wallers Ash Loop | 14/09 |
Worting Jn | 14/17 |
Basingstoke | 14/20 |
Bramley | 14/27 |
Southcote Jn | 14/35 |
Oxford Road Jn | 14/37 |
Reading West Jn | 14/41 [DR] |
Goring & Streatley | 14/48 |
Didcot East Jn | 14/57 |
Didcot Parkway | 14*59 ~ 15*00 [P3] |
Wantage Road | 15/08 |
Challow | 15*11 ~ 15*29 [DR] |
Uffington | 15/33 |
Swindon | 15/42 [P3] |
Rodbourne Jn | 15/44 |
Kemble | 15/55 |
St Mary's LC | 16/05 |
Stroud | 16/11 |
Standish Jn | 16/21 |
Gloucester Yard Jn | 16/28 |
Barnwood Jn | 16/33 |
Cheltenham Spa | 16/40 [P2] |
Ashchurch for Tewkesbury | 16/46 |
Abbotswood Jn | 16/54 |
Norton Jn | 16/59 |
Worcester Shrub Hill | 17c05 ~ 17c07 [P1] |
Tunnel Jn | 17/09 |
Droitwich Spa | 17/14 |
Hartlebury | 17/20 |
Kidderminster Loop | 17L24 ~ 18L24 [DGL] |
Kidderminster | 18/26 |
Blakedown | 18/30 |
Stourbridge Junction | 18/35 |
Rowley Regis | 18/43 |
Rowley Regis Loop | 18*46 ~ 19*10 [UGL] |
Smethwick Jn | 19/16 |
Galton Jn | 19/17 |
Soho North Jn | 19/19 |
Soho East Jn | 19/21 |
Perry Barr West Jn | 19/25 |
Perry Barr North Jn | 19/26 |
Bescot Stadium | 19c32 ~ 19c34 [P2] |
Pleck Jn | 19/36 |
Walsall | 19/38 |
Ryecroft Jn | 19/40 |
Sutton Park | 19/52 |
Park Lane Jn | 19/58 |
Water Orton West Jn | 20/01 |
Water Orton | 20/03 |
Kingsbury Jn | 20/07 |
Tamworth HL | 20c15 ~ 20c17 [P3] |
Wichnor Jn | 20/24 |
Burton-on-Trent | 20.31 ~ 20.33 [UGL] |
Wetmore Jn | 20.38 ~ 20.45 |
Burton Wetmore Sidings | 20.50a |