12th August 2023
UK Railtours
The Newhaven Nonsense
DEMU Used | 1001 (formed: 60116 'Mountfield'+60529+70262+69337+60528+60118 'Tunbridge Wells') |
Route :
1Z89 : London Victoria to Bromley North
1Z90 : Bromley North to London Cannon Street
1Z91 : London Cannon Street to Eastbourne
1Z92 : Eastbourne to Brighton
1Z93 : Brighton to London Waterloo
DEMU | Route |
60116 leading | London Victoria - Grosvenor Bridge Jn - Stewarts Lane Jn - Factory Junction - Voltaire Road Jn - Denmark Hill - Nunhead - Lewisham - Hither Green - Grove Park - Bromley North |
60118 leading | Bromley North - Grove Park - Lee Spur Jn - Sidcup - Crayford Spur 'B' - Crayford Spur 'A' - Slade Green - Plumstead - Woolwich Arsenal - Charlton - Greenwich - North Kent East Jn - London Bridge - Borough Market Jn - London Cannon Street |
60116 leading | London Cannon Street - Borough Market Jn - London Bridge - North Kent East Jn - Greenwich - Charlton - Woolwich Arsenal - Plumstead - Slade Green - Dartford - Gravesend - Hoo Jn - Strood - Aylesford - Maidstone West - Paddock Wood |
60118 leading | Paddock Wood - Headcorn - Ashford International - Appledore - Rye - Ore - Hastings - Bopeep Jn - Bexhill - Pevensey & Westham - Willingdon Jn - Eastbourne |
60116 leading | Eastbourne - Willingdon Jn - Polegate - Southerham Jn - Lewes |
60118 leading | Lewes - Southerham Jn - Newhaven Harbour - Newhaven Marine - Newhaven Wharf Brett Aggregate Terminal (North Siding / left hand on arrival) |
60116 leading | Newhaven Wharf Brett Aggregate Terminal - Aggregates Siding |
60118 leading | Aggregates Siding - Newhaven Wharf Brett Aggregate Terminal (North Siding / left hand on arrival) |
60116 leading | Newhaven Wharf Brett Aggregate Terminal - Newhaven Marine - Newhaven Harbour - Southerham Jn - Lewes - (4) - Plumpton - Keymer Jn - Haywards Heath - Three Bridges - Gatwick Airport - (via Quarry Line) - Purley - East Croydon - Selhurst - Streatham Common - Streatham - Tulse Hill - Herne Hill - Brixton - Voltaire Road Jn - Linford Street Jn - Nine Elms Jn - London Waterloo |
Notes :
(1) Tour postponed from 22/07/23.
(2) 60118 carried the 'Sussex Coast Express' headboard.
(3) Alan Sheppard's comments: This tour was originally advertised to be D6515 (33012) + London
Underground 4TC (class 438) + 2 x GBRf 73/1, but due to an administrative issue
with the 4TC, it was changed to Hastings DEMU 1001, still loco hauled. When the
date changed to 12/08/23, it was decided to run with just the Hastings unit
under its own power for the duration of the tour. This decision was taken in
order to ensure the smooth operation of the tour.
(4) Due to trespass on the railway in the Brighton area the power to the third
rail was switched off, and all trains were stopped. Once power was restored the
tour was still stuck at Southerham Jn until the queuing trains had passed Lewes.
The tour was then diverted via Plumpton to Keymer Jn with an additional stop at Lewes for passengers who
wanted to get to Brighton.
(5) John Clifford's comments: This tour was originally planned to run on
22/07/23. It was advertised as using London Underground's 4TC unit and being top
& tailed by a class 33 and 2 x class 73s. It subsequently transpired that the
4TC was not available, so the Hastings Diesels unit would be the stock, but
still top & tailed with the 33 and 73s. Then, because of the R.M.T. strike on
22/07/23, the train could not run that day, but was postponed to 12/08/23, just
using 1001 without loco haulage. We were advised that the tour train would run
as a 7 car unit including the recently restored power car 60119. The route as
first advertised was as shown to London Bridge, then Cannon Street (Charing
Cross was shut due to engineering work) - London Bridge - Grove Park - Swanley -
Sevenoaks - Ashford International - then as shown to Windmill Bridge Jn -
Crystal Palace - Herne Hill - London Waterloo. On the day we found that the
train was 6 cars. Subsequently I gather that 60119 needed some attention. We set
off slightly early. An early stop at Factory Jn allowed the 08.00 Battersea Park
- Dalston Junction get ahead. Then there was a stop at Crofton Road Jn to let
the 08.07 London Victoria - Dartford pass. We were early and followed it slowly
to Lewisham. Hither Green was passed 9 minutes early, so it was inevitable that
we would have to stop outside Grove Park to let the 08.43 Grove Park - Bromley
North to leave. Bromley North was reached on time. We left there 3 minutes early
and stopped outside Grove Park to let the 09.13 Grove Park - Bromley North
depart. Our next route was the Dartford Loop via the Lee Spur. Here we caught up
the 08.48 Cannon Street- Gravesend, so we followed it until we turned off on to
the Crayford Spur. Here there was a stop to let the 09.45 Dartford - London
Victoria pass. Again we caught this one up, with consequential slow running.
Nevertheless Cannon Street was reached 5½ minutes
early, but we left slightly late. Around Erith we caught up the 10.34 London
Victoria - Dartford. After Greenhithe we caught up the 10.18 London Victoria -
Gravesend. After this we made some progress, but on the Medway Valley line we
caught up the 11.37 Strood - Paddock Wood. Hence the brief stop before East
Farleigh. Up to Paddock Wood and reverse, heading for Eastbourne via Ashford. At
Appledore we noted that the 11.50 Eastbourne - Ashford International running 16
minutes late, then, at Rye, we had to wait for the 12.50 Eastbourne - Ashford
International running 8 minutes late. At Bopeep Jn there was a further stop as
we were now following the 13.22 Ore - Haywards Heath. This stop was in Bopeep
Tunnel, not the most scenic! Arrival at Eastbourne was 5 minutes late. After a
break we continued to Lewes, reversed and went down the Seaford branch. The stop
at Newhaven Harbour was to let the 16.53 Seaford - Brighton pass. We then went
forward beyond the former Marine station and into the northernmost of the Brett
sidings. We reversed and covered the Aggregates siding by Marine station. A
further reversal got us back into Brett sidings (northernmost again). While at
the Brett terminal there was a display of some of Brett's diggers being driven
around the site. Back towards Brighton was the next move, but no! There had been
a trespasser in the Brighton area and the service was in disarray. We got to
Southerham Jn and stopped there for 43 minutes. An announcement was made that we
would not be going to Brighton, but be diverted via Plumpton. A brief stop was
made at Lewes to let Brighton passengers off. We set off and were held at
Haywards Heath for reasons that I did not discover. By cutting down the stop at
Gatwick Airport to just half a minute we gained some time. The stop outside
Streatham was to let the 19.19 Sutton - Luton go ahead, which we then followed.
Eventual arrival back at London Waterloo was 29 minutes late.
Sources : Alan Sheppard & John Clifford (both on the train
throughout)
Timings (Booked & Actual)
(from Alan Sheppard & John Clifford)
M.C | Location | Booked | Actual |
0.00
|
London Victoria | 08.00d [P1] [FL] | 07.59½ [P2] [DCF] |
0.73
|
Grosvenor Bridge Jn | 08/02 | 08/03 [DStL] |
1.36
|
Stewarts Lane Jn | 08/03½ | 08/04 [DStL] |
1.67
|
Factory Jn | 08/05½ [AL] | 08.06 ~ 08.07 |
2.22
|
Voltaire Road Jn | 08/10 [AL] | 08/09 [DnAtl] |
4.33
|
Denmark Hill | 08/16 [P4] [AL] | 08/14½ [P2] [DnAtl] |
4.78
|
Crofton Road Jn | 08/24½ | 08.16 ~ 08.19 [DnAtl-DCL] |
6.08
|
Nunhead | 08/29 [P2] | 08/25 [P2] |
7.48
|
Lewisham Vale Jn | 08/36 | 08/29 |
7.72
|
Lewisham | 08/37 [P2] | 08/30½ [P2] |
8.31
|
Parks Bridge Jn | 08/39 [SL] | 08/32 [DS] |
9.11
|
Hither Green | 08/42½ [P4] [SL] | 08/33 [P4] |
-
|
Sig.TL315 | ? | 08.36 ~ 08.43½ |
10.73
|
Grove Park | 08/47 [P1] | 08/45½ [P1] |
12.42
0.00 |
Bromley North | 08.52a ~ 09.11d [P2] | 08.51½ ~ 09.08½ [P2] |
-
|
Sig.TL330 | ? | 09.12½ ~ 09.14 |
1.49
|
Grove Park | 09/16 [P1] [SL] | 09/16 [P1] |
3.03
|
Lee Spur Jn | 09/19½ | 09.20 ~ 09.22½ |
3.53
|
Lee | 09/32 [P2] | 09/26½ [P2] |
7.60
|
Sidcup | 09/39½ [P2] | 09/36 [P2] |
11.12
|
Crayford | 09/47½ [P2] | 09/43 [P2] |
11.78
|
Crayford Spur 'B' | 09/48½ | 09/45 |
12.13
|
Crayford Spur | 09*49 ~ 10*00½ | 09.46½ ~ 10.00 |
12.28
|
Crayford Spur 'A' | 10/01 | 10/01 |
13.04
|
Crayford Creek Jn | 10/02 | 10/02 |
13.40
|
Slade Green | 10/03 [P1] [U] | 10/03 [P1] |
18.69
|
Plumstead | 10/11 [P1] | 10/10 [P1] |
19.38
|
Woolwich Arsenal | 10/14 [P1] | 10/12½ [P1] |
21.26
|
Charlton | 10/20 [P1] | 10/18½ [P1] |
23.34
|
Greenwich | 10/24½ [P2] | 10/23 [P2] |
24.45
|
North Kent East Jn | 10/27 [L2] | 10/25½ [Rev.No.2] |
24.75
|
Surrey Canal Jn | 10/28 [L2] | 10/26½ [Rev.No.2] |
27.01
|
London Bridge | 10*33 ~ 10*39 [P3] | 10.30 ~ 10.34 [P3] |
27.19
|
Borough Market Jn | 10/41 [UPB] | 10/35 [Rev-UpD] |
27.57
0.00 |
London Cannon Street | 10.43a ~ 10.53d [P6] [ADN] | 10.37 ~ 10.53 [P6] [ADn] |
0.38
|
Borough Market Jn | 10/55 | 10/55½ |
0.56
|
London Bridge | 10/56 [P1] [L1] | 10/56 [P1] [L1] |
3.12
|
North Kent East Jn | 11/01 | 10/59½ |
4.23
|
Greenwich | 11/03 [P1] | 11/02 [P1] |
6.31
|
Charlton | 11/07½ [P2] | 11/07 [P2] |
8.19
|
Woolwich Arsenal | 11/11 [P2] | 11/11½ [P2] |
8.68
|
Plumstead | 11/13 [P2] | 11/12½ [P2] |
14.17
|
Slade Green | 11/23½ [P2] | 11/22 [P2] |
14.53
|
Crayford Creek Jn | 11/24½ | 11/23 |
15.29
|
Crayford Spur 'A' | 11/25½ | 11/24 |
15.71
|
Dartford Jn | 11/26½ [DM] | 11/25 [DM] |
16.30
|
Dartford | 11/27½ [P4] | 11/25½ [P4] |
21.60
|
Springhead Jn | 11/36½ | 11/35½ |
23.13
|
Gravesend | 11/40 [P2] | 11/39 [P2] |
26.32
|
Hoo Jn | 11/44 | 11/43½ |
30.24
|
Strood | 11/49 [P1] | 11/49½ [P1] |
32.49
|
Cuxton | 11/52 [P2] | 11/53 [P2] |
38.07
|
Aylesford | 11/58 [P2] | 11/59 [P2] |
41.13
|
Maidstone Barracks | 12/02 [P2] | 12/03½ [P2] |
41.49
|
Maidstone West | 12*06 ~ 12*13 [P2] | 12/05 [P2] |
- | Sig.EF23 | - | 12.09½ ~ 12.10½ |
43.35
|
East Farleigh | 12/15½ [P1] | 12/11½ [P1] |
46.33
|
Wateringbury | 12/19 [P1] | 12/16½ [P1] |
51.43
|
Paddock Wood | 12.27 ~ 12.32 [P2] | 12c25 ~ 12c28 [P2] |
61.32
|
Cranmore Down Loop | 12.42½ ~ 12.42½ [DPL] | 12/40½ [DPL] |
61.76
|
Headcorn | 12/44½ [DM] | 12/42½ [DM] |
71.76
|
Ashford West Jn | 12/53½ [DF-USL] | 12/54 [DS] |
?
|
Ashford 'B' Jn | ? | 12/55 [DS-UL] |
72.65
|
Ashford International | 12c55 ~ 12c56 [P1] | 12c56½ ~ 12c57 [P1] |
81.26
|
Appledore | 13/07½ [P2] | 13/06½ [P2] |
88.12
|
Rye | 13/15½ [P2] | 13.16 ~ 13.21½ [P2] |
98.18
|
Ore | 13/30 [P2] | 13/37½ [P2] |
99.10
|
Hastings | 13c35 ~ 13c37 [P2] | 13c40 ~ 13c41 [P2] |
99.68
|
St Leonards Warrior Square | 13/39 [P1] | 13/42½ [P1] |
100.54
|
Bopeep Jn S.B. | 13/41 | 13.45½ ~ 13.48 |
103.61
|
Bexhill | 13/46 [P1] | 13/53 [P1] |
110.43
|
Pevensey & Westham | 13/55 [P1] | 14/00 [P1] |
113.14
|
Willingdon Jn | 14/01 | 14/05 |
115.48
0.00 |
Eastbourne | 14.08a [P1] ~ 16.20d [P2] | 14.12½ [P3] ~ 16.19 [P2] |
2.34
|
Willingdon Jn | 16/24 | 16/23 |
4.32
|
Polegate | 16/26½ [P1] | 16/26 [P1] |
14.60
|
Southerham Jn | 16/36 | 16/37½ |
15.63
|
Lewes | 16.38½ ~ 16.46 [P2] | 16.40 ~ 16.45 [P2] |
16.66
|
Southerham Jn | 16/49½ | 16/49½ |
22.00
|
Newhaven Town | 16/55½ [P2] | 16/56½ [P2] |
22.31
|
Newhaven Harbour | 17/00½ [P1] | 16.58 ~ 16.59½ [P1] |
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|
Newhaven Marine (Old Station) | 17/01½ [P3] | 17.02 ~ 17.02½ [P3] |
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|
Newhaven Marine Aggs (GBRf) | 17.03½ ~ 17.20 | 17.06½ ~ 17.16 [LH] [EoL] 17.20 ~ 17.23 [Nth Headshunt] 17.25½ ~ 17.32½ [LH] |
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|
Newhaven Marine (Old Station) | 17/22 [P3] | 17.35 ~ 17.36½ [P3] |
22.31
|
Newhaven Harbour | 17/23 [P2] | 17/39 [P2] |
22.62
|
Newhaven Town | 17/24 [P1] | 17/40 [P1] |
27.76
|
Southerham Jn | 17/30 | 17.48 ~ 18.33 |
28.79
|
Lewes | 17/33 [P5] | 18.36 ~ 18.37 [P2] |
33.37
|
Falmer | 17/40½ [P1] | DIV |
36.76
0.00 |
Brighton | 17.53a ~ 18.03d [P3] [UM] | DIV |
1.28
|
Preston Park | 18/06 [P2] [UM] | DIV |
9.10
|
Burgess Hill | 18/16 [P1] [UM] | DIV |
-
|
Cooksbridge | DIV | 18/42 [P1] |
-
|
Plumpton | DIV | 18/45½ [P1] |
9.60
|
Keymer Jn | 18/16½ [UM] | 18/50 |
12.70
|
Haywards Heath | 18/20½ [P4] [ULH] | 18.56 ~ 19.06½ [P4] |
13.56
|
Copyhold Jn | 18/22 [UM] | 19/08½ |
18.72
|
Balcombe Tunnel Jn | 18/29 [US] | 19/15 [UF] |
21.28
|
Three Bridges | 18/32 [P2] [US] | 19/17 [P4] [UF] |
23.15
|
Tinsley Green Jn | 18/36 | 19/18½ [UF] |
24.02
|
Gatwick Airport | 18.38a ~ 18.52d [P1] [US-UF] | 19.20½ ~ 19.21 [P4] |
29.11
|
Earlswood (Surrey) | 18/58 [P1] [QL] | 19/27 [QL] |
36.29
|
Stoats Nest Jn | 19/05 [UF] | 19/34 [UF] |
37.20
|
Purley | 19/06 [P1] [UF] | 19/35 [P1] [UF] |
40.21
|
East Croydon | 19/10 [P2] [UF-US] | 19/38½ [P2] [UF-US] |
40.60
|
Windmill Bridge Jn | 19/13 [US] | 19/39½ [UVS] |
41.18
|
Selhurst | 19/18½ [P2] [US] | 19/41 [P2] [UVS] |
44.01
|
Streatham Common | 19/24 [P2] | 19/46 [P2] |
|
Streatham Jn | ? | 19.48 ~ 19.49 |
44.48
|
Streatham | 19/27 [P2] | 19/51 [P2] |
46.09
|
Tulse Hill | 19/30 [P3] | 19/56½ [P1] |
47.15
|
Herne Hill | 19/33 [P1] | 20/00 [P1] |
47.77
|
Brixton | 19/35 [P1] | 20/02½ [P1] |
48.21
|
Shepherds Lane Jn | ? | 20/03½ [UCM] |
48.76
|
Voltaire Road Jn | 19/37½ [UCM] | 20/04½ [UCM] |
49.46
|
Linford Street Jn | 19/39 [UWC] | 20/06 [UWC] |
50.18
|
Nine Elms Jn | 19/40 [RVL] | 20/07 [RVL] |
50.67
|
Vauxhall | 19/41 [P1] | 20/08½ [P1] |
51.56
|
Waterloo West Crossings | 19/42 [RVL] | 20/11 [RVL] |
52.16
|
London Waterloo | 19.44a [P19] | 20.13 [P19] |
Associated E.C.S. Workings
5Z89 : St Leonards Eng.Ltd (GBRf) to London Victoria
Location | Booked | Actual |
St Leonards Eng.Ltd (GBRf) | 05+32d | |
Bopeep Jn S.B. | 05/39 | |
St Leonards Warrior Square | 05/41 [P2] | |
Hastings | 05/43 [P3] | |
Ore | 05/46 [P1] | |
Rye | 06/01 [P1] | |
Appledore (Kent) | 06/10 [P1] | |
Ashford International | 06+22 ~ 06+24 [P2] | |
Charing | 06/32 [P1] | |
Maidstone East | 06/48 [P1] | |
Borough Green & Wrotham | 06/58½ [P1] | |
Otford Jn | 07/04 [U] | |
Swanley | 07/14 [P1][SL] | |
St Mary Cray Jn | 07/18 [SL] | |
Bickley Jn | 07/19 [SL] | |
Bromley South | 07/21 [P3][SL] | |
Shortlands Jn | 07/24½ | |
Beckenham Junction | 07/26 [P2] | |
Kent House | 07/27 [P2] | |
Herne Hill | 07/31 [P2] | |
Brixton | 07/32 [P1] | |
Voltaire Road Jn | 07/33½ [FL] | |
Grosvenor Bridge Jn | 07/37 [FL] | |
London Victoria | 07+39a [P2] | 07.42 [P2] |
Location | Booked | Actual |
Eastbourne | 14+14d [P1] | 14+24 [P3] |
Eastbourne C.W. Line | ? | 14+28 ~ 14+32 ['B'] |
Eastbourne C.S. | 14+24a | 14+34 (Carr.Cleaning.Sdg) |
Location | Booked | Actual |
Eastbourne C.S. | 16+05d [CR] | 15+47 (Carr.Cleaning.Sdg) |
Eastbourne C.W. Line | ? | 15+51 ~ 15+58 ['B'] |
Eastbourne | 16+10a [P2] | 16+00 [P2] |
5Z94 : London Waterloo to St Leonards Eng.Ltd (GBRf)
Location | Booked |
London Waterloo | 19+57d [P19] [DW] |
Waterloo West Crossings | 19/58½ [WFL] |
Nine Elms Jn | 20/01 |
Linford Street Jn | 20/03 |
Voltaire Road Jn | 20/05 |
Brixton | 20/08 [P2] |
Herne Hill | 20/11 [P3] |
Kent House | 20*20 ~ 20*24½ [P4] |
Beckenham Junction | 20/27 [P3] |
Shortlands Jn | 20/28½ [FL] |
Bromley South | 20/30 [P2][FL] |
Bickley Jn | 20/33½ [DFV] |
Petts Wood Jn | 20/35½ [FL] |
Orpington | 20/37½ [P3] |
Sevenoaks | 20/45½ [P3] |
Tonbridge | 20/55 [DF] |
Somerhill Tunnel | 20/58 |
Wells Tunnel Jn | 21/05 |
Tunbridge Wells | 21/09 [P2] |
Strawberry Hill Tunnel | 21/11 |
Wadhurst | 21/19 [P2] |
Wadhurst Tunnel South | 21/21 |
Robertsbridge | 21/31 [P2] |
Mountfield Tunnel | 21/35 |
Battle | 21/39 [P2] |
Bopeep Jn S.B. | 21/48½ |
St Leonards Warrior Square | 21/50½ [P2] |
Hastings | 21+54 ~ 22+02 [P3] |
St Leonards Warrior Square | 22/04 [P1] |
Bopeep Jn S.B. | 22/06 |
St Leonards Eng.Ltd (GBRf) | 22+14a |