18th November 2023
Steam Dreams Rail Co
London to York Christmas Market
Locos Used (2) | 47805 'Roger Hosking MA 1925-2013' & steam: 45231 'The Sherwood Forester' |
Stock Used | 35461+17013+3045+3122+80044+3100+3148+3125+1863+3107+3330+3231 |
Route :
1Z31 : London Kings Cross to York
1Z33 : York to London Kings Cross
Loco(s) | Route |
45231 (1) | London Kings Cross - (via ECML) - Peterborough - Spalding - Sleaford South Jn - Sleaford North Jn - Metheringham - Lincoln Central - Saxilby - Gainsborough Lea Road - Gainsborough Trent Jns - Bessacarr Jn - Doncaster - (via ECML) - York |
45231 (1) | York - (reverse of outward route) - London Kings Cross |
Notes :
(1) 47805 on rear.
(2) 47805 running as D1935.
(3) John Clifford's comments: When this tour was first advertised it was due to
be hauled by 70000 'Britannia'. This engine needed repairs after a major failure
at Chilworth on 22/08/23. 34046 'Braunton' was substituted but, about a week
before the train ran, it was found to be out of gauge at Kings Cross. The train
finally ran hauled by 45231. We left Potters Bar a few minutes early. We stopped
at Welwyn North and this delayed the train. We left the Huntingdon water stop
late. This caused a 9 minute delay to the 07.26 Horsham - Peterborough. We
continued northwards. Peterborough was left 16 minutes late. By shortening the
Metheringham water stop we picked up some time. There was a slight delay at
Doncaster awaiting a member of train crew. Arrival at York was 8 minutes late.
The coaches for the return journey arrived half an hour late. We had to wait for
the 14.00 Edinburgh - Kings Cross to depart, and then followed it. There had
also been a Kings Cross and return railtour run by the Railway Touring Company
(RTC) on this day. The plan had been that the RTC tour would go 20 minutes in
front of us, but run via Knottingley, so that it was behind us at Doncaster.
Like our tour, the RTC train was booked to run via Lincoln. However, the RTC
tour got to Doncaster first and carried on. The RTC tour had a booked water stop
at Saxilby, so we sat outside that station while it watered. Eventually we got
our water stop at East Holmes and left there nearly an hour late. We continued
in the same vein. Despite not calling at Peterborough and cutting short the
water stop at Conington we were still late. I left the train at Potters Bar,
where it arrived 59 minutes late.
Source : John Clifford (joined/left the tour at Potters Bar)
Timings (Booked & Actual)
(from John Clifford)
Location | Booked | Actual | Booked | Actual | |
London Kings Cross | 08.00d [P8] [F] | 08.00 | 21.35a [P8] | 22.34 | |
Belle Isle | 08/01½ [DS] | 08/02 | 21/33 [E] | 22/31 | |
Holloway South Jn | 08/03½ [DS] | 08/05 | 21/31 [US] | 22/30 | |
Finsbury Park | 08/05 [P7] [DS] | 08/08 | 21/29½ [P4] [UF] | 22/28 | |
Alexandra Palace | 08/15½ [P3] [DS] | 08/13 | 21/24½ [UF] | 22/25 | |
Potters Bar | 08.27½a ~ 08.30½d [P4] [DS] | 08.24½ ~ 08.27½ [P4] [DS] | 21.13a ~ 21.17d [P2] [UF] | 22.12 ~ 22.15 [P2] [UF] | |
Welwyn Garden City | 08/39 [P3] [DS] | 08/40 [P3] [DS] | 21/06½ [UF] | 22/02 [UF] | |
Digswell Jn | 08/40 [DF] | 08/41 [DF] | 21/05½ [UF] | 22/01 | |
Welwyn North | 08/41 | 08.42 ~ 08.43 [P2] | 21/04½ | 22/00 | |
Woolmer Green Jn | 08/43 [DS] | 08/47 [DS] | 21/02½ [UF] | 21/59 [UF] | |
Stevenage | 08/47½ [P4] [DS] | 08/51 [P4] [DS] | 20/58½ [P1] [US] | 21/55 [P1] [US] | |
Hitchin | 08.53a ~ 08.56d [P2] [DS] | 08.57 ~ 09.00 [P2] [DS] | 20.48a ~ 20.52d [P1] [US] | 21.40 ~ 21.47 [P1] [US] | |
Biggleswade | 09/07½ [P4] [DS] | 09/12 [P4] [DS] | 20/37½ [P1] [US] | 21/27½ [P1] [US] | |
Sandy | 09/10½ [P2] [DS] | 09/14 [P2] [DS] | 20/34½ [P1] [US] | 21/24½ [P1] [US] | |
Huntingdon | 09w28 ~ 09w46½ [P3] [DS] | 09w35 ~ 09w54 [P3] [DS] | 20/19½ [P2] [US] | 21/09 [P2] [US] | |
Conington Loop | - | - | 19w44 ~ 20w08 [US] | 20w41 ~ 20w56 [US] | |
Conington South Jn | 09/59 [DS] | 10/06 | 19/42½ [US] | 20/38 | |
Holme Jn | 10/01½ [DF] | 10/12 [DF] | 19/41 [UF] | 20/34 | |
Fletton Jn | 10/07½ [DS] | 10/20 [DS] | 19/35 [UF] | 20/28½ [UF] | |
Peterborough | 10c10½ ~ 10c12½ [P4] [DS] | 10.23 ~ 10.28½ [P4] [DS] | 19c17 ~ 19c31 [P1] [US] | 20/27 [P3] [UF] | |
Marholm Jn | 10/17½ [WL] | 10/35 [WL] | - | - | |
Glinton Jn | 10/19½ | 10/36½ | - | - | |
Werrington Jn | - | - | 19/11½ [US] | 20/19 [US] | |
Spalding | 10/34 [P2] | 10/51½ [P2] | 18/56 [P1] | 20/01 [P1] | |
Quadring Sig.WS7071 | 10/42 | 11/00 | - | - | |
Quadring Sig.WS7070 | - | - | 18/48½ | 19/50 | |
Sleaford South Jn | 10/57 [DA] | 11/11½ [DA] | 18/37½ | 19/38½ | |
Sleaford North Jn | 10/58½ | 11/13 | 18/36 [UA] | 19/37 [UA] | |
Metheringham | 11w08 ~ 11w38 | 11w24 ~ 11w41½ [P1] | 18/25 | 19/37 [P2] | |
Pelham Street Jn | 11/50 | 11/56 | 18/13½ | 19/14 | |
Lincoln Central | 11/51 [DM] | 11/56½ [DM] | 18/13 [UM] | 19/12½ [UM] | |
East Holmes | - | - | 17w41 ~ 18w11 [SL] | 18w41 ~ 19w08½ [SL] | |
West Holmes Jn | 11/54½ | 11/58 | 17/39 | 18/35 | |
Pyewipe Jn | 11/56 | 12/00 | 17/37 | 18/33 | |
Saxilby | 12/01 | 12/04½ [P2] | 17/32 | 18/24 | |
Sig.LG7974 | - | - | - | 18.03½ ~ 18.19 | |
Gainsborough Lea Road | 12/11½ | 12/14½ [P2] | 17/19 | 17/52½ | |
Gainsborough Trent Jns | 12/13 | 12/16 | 17/17 | 17/49 | |
Bessacarr Jn | 12/31½ | 12/37 | 16/58 | 17/30 | |
Decoy South Jn | 12/32½ | 12/38 | - | - | |
Decoy North Jn | 12/34½ [DF] | 12/39 [DF] | - | - | |
Black Carr Jn | - | - | 16/56 | 17/29 | |
Potteric Carr Jn | - | - | 16/55 [ESL] | 17/28 [ESL] | |
Doncaster | 12c40 ~ 12c42½ [P4] | 12.44 ~ 12.50 [P4] | 16/51 [P1] [ESL] | 17/23 [P1] [ESL] | |
Shaftholme Jn | 12/49½ | 12/57 | 16/44 | 17/13 | |
Temple Hirst Jn | 12/58½ | 13/05 | 16/35 | 17/04 | |
Hambleton North Jn | 13/04½ | 13/12 | 16/29 | 16/59 | |
Colton Jn | 13/13½ [NNL] | 13/19 [NNL] | 16/21 | 16/51 | |
Colton North Jn | 13/16 [LSL] | 13/20 [DM] | 16/20 | 16/50 | |
York Sig.Y27? | - | 13.27 ~ 13.28 | - | - | |
York | 13.22a [P9] | 13.30 [P9] | 16.13d [P3] [NNL] | 16.43½ [P3] [NNL] |
Associated E.C.S. Workings
17/11/23 :
5Z52 : (45231 with 47805 on rear) : Crewe H.S. to Crewe Gresty Reception
5Z52 : (47805 with 45231 on rear) : Crewe Gresty Reception to Crewe
5Z52 : (45231 with 47805 on rear) : Crewe to Willesden West London Jn
5Z52 : (47805 with 45231 on rear) : Willesden West London Jn to Southall
Location | Booked |
Crewe H.S. | 10.15d |
Gresty Lane Sig.GL37 | 10.16 ~ 10.17 |
Crewe Gresty Lane | 10/20 |
Gresty Lane Reception | 10.25 ~ 10.40 |
Crewe Gresty Lane | 10/44 |
Crewe | 10.48 ~ 11.03 [P11] |
Basford Hall Jn | 11/09 |
Madeley | 11/16 |
Little Bridgeford Jn | 11/28 |
Stafford | 11/33 |
Trent Valley Jn | 11/34 |
Whitehouse Jn | 11/37 |
Colwich | 11/41 |
Rugeley North Jn | 11/47 |
Lichfield North Jn | 11/54 |
Amington Jn | 12/02 |
Atherstone | 12w10 ~ 12w30 [P2] |
Nuneaton | 12*38 ~ 12*49 [UR] |
Attleborough South Jn | 12/52 |
Brinklow | 13/00 |
Trent Valley Jn | 13/06 |
Rugby | 13/08 [P6] |
Hillmorton Jn | 13/10 |
Daventry South Jn | 13/14 |
Long Buckby | 13/21 |
Northampton | 13/32 |
Hanslope Jn | 13/44 |
Milton Keynes Central | 13*49 ~ 14*16 |
Bletchley | 14/22 |
Ledburn Jn | 14/31 |
Tring | 14*41 ~ 15*01 [P5] |
Bourne End Jn | 15/09 |
Watford Junction | 15/19 |
Harrow & Wealdstone | 15/26 |
Wembley Central | 15/33 |
Willesden Up & Down Relief | 15*37 ~ 15*50 |
Sudbury Jn | 15/53 |
Wembley Yard South Jn | 15/54 |
Willesden No.7 | 15/57 |
Acton Lane Reception Sidings | 15/59 |
Willesden West London Jn | 16.01 ~ 16.16 |
Willesden SW Sidings | 16/17 |
Acton Wells Jn | 16/19 |
Acton Main Line | 16/22 |
Acton West | 16/26 |
West Ealing | 16/30 |
Hanwell | 16/34 |
Hanwell Bridge Loop | 16*37 ~ 16*50 [UGL] |
Southall East Jn | 16/52 |
Southall | 16.53 ~ 17.13 |
Southall LSL | 17.24a |
18/11/23 :
5Z31 : (45231 with 47805 on rear) : Southall to
Hornsey
5Z31 : (47805 with 45231 on rear) : Hornsey to London Kings Cross
Location | Booked |
Southall LSL | 05.54d |
Southall | 06.04 ~ 06.19 |
Southall East Jn | 06/20 |
West Ealing | 06/23 |
Acton West | 06/26 |
Acton Main Line | 06/29 |
Acton Wells Jn | 06/35 |
Willesden Junction HL | 06/44 |
Kensal Green Jn | 06/47 |
West Hampstead | 06/55 |
Gospel Oak | 07/01 |
Camden Road Jn | 07/04 |
Camden Road Central Jn | 07/06 |
York Way North Jn | 07/08 |
Copenhagen Jn | 07/09 |
Holloway South Jn | 07/11 |
Finsbury Park | 07/15 |
Hornsey Sig.K440 | 07.20 ~ 07.25 |
Finsbury Park | 07/30 |
Holloway South Jn | 07/31 |
Belle Isle | 07/33 |
London Kings Cross | 07.35a [P8] |
5Z32 : (45231 with 47805 on rear)
: York to Skelton Jn
5Z32 : (47805 with 45231 on rear) : Skelton Jn to York Thrall
(45231 turned at York Thrall Turntable)
Location | Booked | Actual |
York | 13.45d [P9] | 13.52 [P9] |
Skelton Jn | 13.51 ~ 13.56 | |
York Yard North Jn | 14/00 | |
York Thrall Turntable | 14.05a |
5Z33 : (47805 with 45231 on rear) : York Thrall to Skelton Jn
5Z33 : (45231 with 47805 on rear)
: Skelton Jn to York
Location | Booked | Actual |
York Thrall Turntable | 15.40d | |
York Yard North Jn | 15.45 ~ 15.46 | |
Skelton Jn | 15.50 ~ 15.55 | |
York | 15.59a [P3] | 16.30 [P3] |
5Z34 : (47805 with 45231 on rear) : London Kings Cross
to Hornsey
5Z34 : (45231 with 47805 on rear) : Hornsey to Southall
Location | Booked |
London Kings Cross | 21.51d [P8] |
Belle Isle | 21/52 |
Holloway South Jn | 21/53 |
Finsbury Park | 21/56 |
Harringay | 22/00 |
Hornsey Sig.K440 | 22.05 ~ 22.23 |
Harringay | 22/27 |
Finsbury Park | 22/29 |
Holloway South Jn | 22/31 |
Copenhagen Jn | 22/36 |
York Way North Jn | 22/37 |
Camden Road Central Jn | 22/40 |
Camden Road Jn | 22/42 |
Gospel Oak | 22/49 |
West Hampstead | 22/53 |
Kensal Green Jn | 23/05 |
Willesden Junction HL | 23/07 |
Acton Wells Jn | 23/09 |
Acton Main Line | 23*12 ~ 23*24 |
Acton West | 23/28 |
West Ealing | 23/31 |
Southall East Jn | 23/35 |
Southall | 23.37 ~ 23.47 |
Southall LSL | 23.58a |
19/11/23 :
5Z50 : (47805 + 45231?) : Southall to Crewe
5Z50 : (47805 + 45231?) : Crewe to Crewe Gresty Reception
5Z50 : (47805 + 45231?) : Crewe Gresty Reception to Crewe H.S.
Location | Booked |
Southall LSL | 17.55d |
Southall | 18.05 ~ 18.20 |
Southall East Jn | 18/21 |
West Ealing | 18/23 |
Acton West | 18/27 |
Acton Main Line | 18*31 ~ 19*03 [UGL] |
Acton Wells Jn | 19/06 |
Acton Canal Wharf | 19/08 |
Willesden No.7 | 19/11 |
Wembley Yard South Jn | 19/14 |
Sudbury Jn | 19/15 |
Willesden Up & Down Relief | 19/18 |
Wembley Central | 19/22 |
Harrow & Wealdstone | 19/26 |
Watford Junction | 19/31 |
Bourne End Jn | 19/38 |
Tring | 19/44 |
Ledburn Jn | 19/50 |
Bletchley | 19/57 |
Milton Keynes Central | 20*04 ~ 20*20 [P2] |
Hanslope Jn | 20/29 |
Weedon | 20/39 |
Hillmorton Jn | 20/47 |
Rugby | 20/49 [P2] |
Trent Valley Jn | 20/50 |
Brinklow | 20/55 |
Attleborough South Jn | 21/00 |
Nuneaton | 21/01 |
Amington Jn | 21/09 |
Lichfield North Jn | 21/15 |
Rugeley North Jn | 21/20 |
Colwich | 21/24 |
Stafford | 21/29 |
Norton Bridge | 21/34 |
Madeley | 21/43 |
Basford Hall Jn | 21/48 |
Crewe | 21.51 ~ 22.11 [P11] |
Crewe Gresty Lane | 22/13 |
Gresty Lane Reception | 22.17 ~ 22.37 |
Crewe Gresty Lane | 22/41 |
Crewe H.S. | 22.47a |