9th December 2023
Pathfinder Railtours
The Chester Christmas Cromptons
Locos Used | 33029, 33207 'Jim Martin' & 47826 |
Stock Used | 99723+5239+5229+99316+3120+99351+3093+1861+5009+4998 |
Route :
1Z33 : Eastleigh to Chester
1Z35 : Chester to Eastleigh
Loco(s) | Route |
33207 + 33029 (1) | Eastleigh - St Denys - Southampton Central - Redbridge - Romsey - Dean - Salisbury - Wilton Jn - Warminster - Westbury - Trowbridge - Bradford-on-Avon - Bathampton Jn - Bath Spa - North Somerset Jn - Dr Day's Jn - Filton Abbey Wood - Patchway - Severn Tunnel Junction - Maindee East Jn - Maindee North Jn - Cwmbran - Abergavenny - Hereford - Leominster - Ludlow - Craven Arms - Church Stretton - Sutton Bridge Jn - Shrewsbury - Ruabon - Gobowen - Wrexham General - Saltney Jn - Chester |
33207 + 33029 (1) | Chester - Crewe - Nantwich - Whitchurch - Shrewsbury - (reverse of outward route) - Eastleigh |
Notes :
(1) 47826 on rear.
(2) John Clifford's comments: We left Eastleigh slightly early, likewise
Southampton Central. At Salisbury Tunnel Jn we had to wait for the 07.08
Basingstoke - Salisbury to pass, as we were a few minutes early. Passengers were
picked up at Salisbury and Warminster and we arrived at Westbury 5 minutes late.
Here there was a delay while the gas bottles for the Buffet Car were sorted out.
The 08.40 Westbury - Bristol TM which should have followed us was allowed out
first, so we left 11 minutes late. Passengers were picked up at Trowbridge, Bath
Spa and Filton Abbey Wood. By this time we were 20 minutes late, and we
continued roughly this late until Hereford, where we did not stop (although
booked to do so). This got us back to being nearly on time. There was a slowing
at Marsh Brook and we stopped between Dorrington and Sutton Bridge. After
dropping off passengers at Shrewsbury we continued, omitting the stop at Wrexham
General, but were held at Wrexham North to let the 11.23 from Llandudno Junction
to come off the single line. Arrival at Chester was 3 minutes late.
The return journey ran via Crewe. There was a signal stop outside Crewe and a
stop in Crewe station. We followed the 15.30 Manchester Piccadilly - Carmarthen
from there, which delayed us (as it was 24 minutes late) and arrived at
Shrewsbury 15 minutes late. Here our Kitchen Car needed to be watered. We left
43 minutes late behind the 16.30 Manchester Piccadilly - Swansea. Some time was
made up but the 16.30 checked us at Woofferton. More time was made up. Despite a
stop outside Abergavenny and one at Maindee North Jn (the later to let the 17.30
Cardiff Central - Portsmouth Harbour to pass) we made up a little bit more time.
Filton Abbey Wood was left 24½ minutes late and
North Somerset Jn was passed 22 minutes late. There appeared to be problems on
the Paddington - Bristol line. We were stopped outside Bath Spa. When we got
into the platform it was "heaving" with many waiting for a London bound train.
Bath was left 33 minutes late. Our time at Salisbury was cut short so that we
left 22½ minutes late. There was hope that we might make up a bit more time, but
hopes were dashed when we were held at Southampton Central to let the
20.10 Weymouth - London Waterloo go ahead. It was 42 minutes late. Our arrival
back at Eastleigh was 31 minutes late.
Sources : John Clifford (on the tour throughout)
& Richard Szwejkowski (joined/left the tour at Filton Abbey Wood)
Timings (Booked & Actual)
(from John Clifford & Richard Szwejkowski)
M.C | Location | Booked | Actual | Booked | Actual | M.C | |
0.00 | Eastleigh | 07.00d [P3] | 06.59 [P3] | 22.27a [P1] | 22.58 [P1] | 255.32 | |
? | Southampton Airport Parkway | 07/02½ [P2] | 07/01 | 22/24 [P1] [US] | 22/55 [P1] [US] | ? | |
3.55 | St Denys | 07/05½ [P2] [DF] | 07/04 [P2] [DF] | 22/22 [P1] | 22/53 [P1] | 251.57 | |
? | Northam Jn | 07/07½ | 07/06 | 22/20 [UF] | 22/50½ [US] | ? | |
5.52 | Southampton Central | 07.10a ~ 07.13d [P4] [DF] | 07.09 ~ 07.13½ [P4] [DF] | 22.14a ~ 22.17d [P2] | 22.38 ~ 22.47 [P3] | 249.60 | |
? | Church Lane Jn | 07/15½ | 07/16 | 22/12½ [US] | 22/34 [US] | ? | |
8.23 | Redbridge | 07/17 [P2] | 07/18 [P2] | 22/11 [P1] | 22/32 [P1] | 247.09 | |
13.59 | Romsey | 07.26a ~ 07.29d [P2] | 07.27 ~ 07.28 [P2] | 22.01a ~ 22.04d [P1] | 22.23 ~ 22.24 [P1] | 241.53 | |
21.22 | Dean | 07/38 [P2] | 07/37 [P2] | 21/53½ [P1] | 22/14 [P1] | 234.10 | |
? | Tunnel Jn | 07/50 | 07.45 ~ 07.53 | 21/42½ | 22/06½ | 226.15 | |
30.24 | Salisbury | 07.55a ~ 07.59d [P3] | 07.57 ~ 08.00 [P4] | 21.27a ~ 21.37d [P4] | 21.58½ ~ 22.00 [P4] | 225.08 | |
32.10 | Wilton Jn | 08/04 | 08/04 | 21/23½ | 21/53 | 223.22 | |
? | Wishford | 08/08 | 08/08 | 21/19½ | 21/48 | ? | |
40.02 | Wylye AHB | 08/12 | 08/13 | 21/15½ | 21/44 | 215.30 | |
? | Upton Lovell | 08/16 | 08/17 | 21/10 | 21/40 | ? | |
50.06 | Warminster | 08.21a ~ 08.24d [P1] | 08.23 ~ 08.25½ [P1] | 21.00a ~ 21.03d [P2] | 21.31½ ~ 21.34 [P2] | 205.26 | |
54.59 | Westbury | 08.30a ~ 08.32d [P3] | 08.35 ~ 08.43 [P3] | 20.47a ~ 20.50d [P1] | 21.20 ~ 21.23 [P1] | 200.53 | |
58.62 | Trowbridge | 08.38a ~ 08.40d [P1] | 08.52 ~ 08.53½ [P1] | 20.38a ~ 20.41d [P2] | 21.11½ ~ 21.13 [P2] | 196.50 | |
60.03 | Bradford Jn | 08/43 | 08/56½ | 20/36 | 21/09 | 195.29 | |
? | Bradford-on-Avon | 08/45½ [P1] | 09/00 | 20/33 [P2] | 21/04½ [P2] | 193.26 | |
- | Bathampton Sig.BL1990 | - | - | 20/29 | 21/01 | - | |
69.15 | Bathampton Jn | 08/55 | 09/13 | 20/25 | 20/58 | 186.17 | |
71.41 | Bath Spa | 08.58a ~ 09.03d [P1] | 09.16½ ~ 09.19 [P1] | 20.18a ~ 20.21d [P2] | 20.49 ~ 20.54 [P2] | 183.71 | |
- | Bath Sig.BL1920 | - | - | - | 20.37½ ~ 20.47 | - | |
82.16 | North Somerset Jn | 09/14 [UBL] | 09/34 [UBL] | 20/05 | 20/27 | 173.16 | |
82.43 | Dr Day's Jn | 09/18 [ML] | 09/36½ [ML] | 20/01 [UBL] | 20/25½ [UBL] | 172.69 | |
? | Narroways Hill Jn | 09/20 | 09/37 | 19/56½ [RL] | 20/20 [RL] | 171.41 | |
? | Horfield Jn | 09/22 [ML] | 09/40½ [ML] | 19/55 [RL] | 20/18½ [RL] | ? | |
86.18 | Filton Abbey Wood | 09.23a ~ 09.25d [P2] | 09.42 ~ 09.45 [P2] | 19.48a ~ 19.53d [P3] [RL] | 20.12½ ~ 20.17½ [P3] [RL] | 169.14 | |
- | Sig.BL1589 | - | - | - | 20.08½ ~ 20.09 | - | |
87.65 | Patchway | 09/27 [P2] | 09/48 [P2] | 19/43½ [P1] | 20/07½ [P1] | 167.47 | |
91.31 | Pilning | 09/30 [P2] | 09/51 [P2] | 19/38 [P1] | 20/04½ [P1] | 164.01 | |
? | Severn Tunnel East | 09/31 | 09/52 | 19/36½ | 20/03 | ? | |
? | Severn Tunnel West | 09/35 | 09/56 | 19/32 | 19/59 | ? | |
98.27 | Severn Tunnel Junction | 09/36 [P3] [DM] | 09/57 [P3] [DM] | 19/28 [P4] | 19/58 [P4] | 157.05 | |
? | Llanwern West Jn | 09/42 [DM] | 10/03 [DM] | 19/13 [UR] | 19/51 [UR] | ? | |
? | Maindee East Jn | 09/46½ | 10/06 | 19/09½ [UR] | 19.45 ~ 19.47½ [UR] | 147.71 | |
108.23 | Maindee North Jn | 09/49½ | 10/09 | 19/07½ | 19/42 | ? | |
? | Cwmbran | 09/59 | 10/15 | 18/59 | 19/33 | ? | |
? | Pontypool & New Inn | 10/03½ | ? | 18/54½ | ? | ? | |
118.51 | Little Mill Jn | 10/06 | 10/21 | 18/52½ | 19/30 | 136.61 | |
126.43 | Abergavenny | 10/13 [P1] | 10/27½ [P1] | 18/45½ [P2] | 19/25 [P2] | 128.69 | |
- | Abergavenny Home Signal | - | - | - | 19.22 ~ 19.23 | - | |
? | Abergavenny Sig.38 | 10/19 | 10/32 | - | - | - | |
138.12 | Pontrilas | 10/24½ | 10/36½ | 18/34½ | 19/14 | 117.20 | |
143.69 | Tram Inn | 10/29½ | 10/41 | 18/29 | 19/04 | 111.43 | |
150.41 | Hereford | 10p39 ~ 10p46 [P3] | 10/48 [P3] | 18/21 [DR] | 18/56 [DR] | 104.70 | |
152.19 | Shelwick Jn | 10/49 | 10/51 | 18/18 | 18/54 | 103.13 | |
? | Moreton-on-Lugg | 10/51½ | 10/53 | 18/09½ | 18/49 | ? | |
163.09 | Leominster | 10/59 | 11/00 [P1] | 18/02½ | 18/42 [P2] | 92.23 | |
169.43 | Woofferton | 11/04½ | 11/04 | 17/56 | 18/36 | 85.69 | |
? | Ludlow | 11/08 | ? | 17/52½ | ? | ? | |
176.25 | Bromfield | 11/10 | 11/09½ | 17/50½ | 18/26½ | 79.07 | |
181.48 | Craven Arms | 11/15 [P1] | 11/16½ [P1] | 17/46 [P2] | 18/22½ [P2] | 73.64 | |
186.16 | Marsh Brook LC | 11/19½ | 11/24½ | 17/42 | 18/17½ | 69.16 | |
? | Church Stretton | 11/22 | ? | 17/39 | ? | ? | |
195.20 | Dorrington SB | 11/28 | 11/34½ | 17/31½ | 18/09½ | 60.12 | |
- | Near M.P.2 | - | 11.39 ~ 11.41 | - | - | - | |
200.57 | Sutton Bridge Jn | 11*35½ ~ 11*50½ [UGL] | 11/43½ | 17/21½ | 18/05 | 54.55 | |
? | English Bridge Jn | 11/53 | 11/53½ | 17/19 | 18/02 | ? | |
201.41 | Shrewsbury | 11.57a ~ 12.00d [P4] | 11.56½ ~ 11.59 [P4] | 17.13a ~ 17.17d [P4] | 17.25 ~ 18.00 [P4] | 53.71 | |
219.45 | Gobowen | 12/20 | 12/17 [P2] | - | - | - | |
? | Chirk | 12/23½ | ? | - | - | - | |
? | Ruabon | 12/28 | ? | - | - | - | |
231.61 | Wrexham General | 12x33½ ~ 12x35½ [P2] | 12/37 [P2] | - | - | - | |
? | Wrexham North | 12/37 | 12.39½ ~ 12.40 | - | - | - | |
236.43 | Rossett Jn | 12/43 | 12/46 | - | - | - | |
241.77 | Saltney Jn | 12/49½ | 12/53 | - | - | - | |
? | Chester South Jn | 12/51½ [UF] | 12/54½ | - | - | - | |
- | Harlescott LC | - | - | 17/09 | 17/22½ | 51.60 | |
- | Wem | - | - | 17/01 | 17/18½ [P1] | 43.08 | |
- | Prees | - | - | 16/58 | 17/11½ [P1] | 39.67 | |
- | Whitchurch | - | - | 16/53½ | 17/05½ | ? | |
- | Wrenbury | - | - | 16/49 | 17/01½ [P1] | 29.79 | |
- | Nantwich | - | - | 16/44 | 16.50½ ~ 16.51 [P2] | 25.45 | |
- | Crewe Gresty Lane | - | - | 16/39 | 16/42½ | ? | |
- | Crewe | - | - | 16/36 [P12] | 16.38 ~ 16.39 [P12] | 21.11 | |
- | Crewe Sig. CE142 | - | - | - | 16.33 ~ 16.34 | - | |
- | Crewe Steel Works | - | - | 16/32 | 16/29 | ? | |
- | Beeston Castle & Tarporley SB | - | - | 16/22 | 16/22 | 10.31 | |
243.75 | Chester | 12.55a [P3] | 12.58 [P3] | 16.10d [P3] | 16.10½ [P3] | 0.00 |
Mileages as shown in the tour brochure.
Associated E.C.S. Workings
5Z33 : (33207 + 33029 with 47826 on rear) : Southall WCR to Eastleigh
Location | Booked |
Southall WCR | 04.55d |
Southall | 05/05 |
Southall West Jn | 05/06 |
Heathrow Airport Jn | 05/12 |
Slough | 05/18 |
Maidenhead | 05/22 |
Twyford | 05/28 |
Kennet Bridge Jn | 05/32 |
Reading | 05/34 [P7] |
Oxford Road Jn | 05/37 |
Southcote Jn | 05/40 |
Bramley | 05/52 |
Basingstoke | 06/02 [P2] |
Worting Jn | 06/07 |
Wallers Ash Loop | 06/17 |
Winchester | 06/22 |
Shawford Jn | 06/26 |
Eastleigh Sig.E26 | 06*33 ~ 06*45 |
Eastleigh | 06.47a [P3] |
5Z34 : (33207 + 33029 with 47826 on rear) : Chester to
Chester Sig.CR528
5Z34 : (47826 with 33029 + 33207 on rear) : Chester Sig.CR528 to Chester
Location | Booked |
Chester | 13.04d [P3] |
Chester Sig.CR528 | 13.07 ~ 13.10 |
Chester Reception | 13.13a |
5Z35 : (47826 with 33029 + 33207 on rear) : Chester to
Chester South Jn
5Z35 : (33207 + 33029 with 47826 on rear) : Chester South Jn to Chester
Location | Booked |
Chester Reception | 15.45d |
Chester South Jn | 15.50 ~ 15.54 |
Chester | 15.57a [P3] |
5Z36 : (33207 + 33029 with 47826 on rear) : Eastleigh to
Hanwell Bridge Loop
5Z36 : (47826 with 33029 + 33207 on rear) : Hanwell Bridge Loop to Southall
5Z36 : (33207 + 33029 with 47826 on rear) : Southall to Southall WCR
Location | Booked |
Eastleigh | 22.37d [P1] |
Shawford Up Jn | 22/42 |
Winchester | 22/45 |
Wallers Ash Loop | 22/51 |
Worting Jn | 23/00 |
Basingstoke | 23/03 [P4] |
Bramley | 23/10 |
Southcote Jn | 23/21 |
Oxford Road Jn | 23/23 |
Reading | 23/30 [P13] |
Kennet Bridge Jn | 23/31 |
Twyford | 23/35 |
Maidenhead | 23/42 |
Slough | 23/48 |
Heathrow Airport Jn | 00/01 |
Southall | 00/04 |
Hanwell Bridge Loop | 00.06 ~ 00.29 |
Southall East Jn | 00/31 |
Southall | 00.33 ~ 00.38 |
Southall WCR | 00.44a |