4th May 1974
British Rail
(F.A. Cup Final Specials)
Locos Used | ????? |
Stock Used | 1L30 : booked for load 12 1L31 : booked for load 12 1L33 : booked for load 10 1L34 : booked for load 10 1L35 : booked for load 10 1L38 : booked for load 12 1L39 : booked for load 11 1L40 : booked for load 12 incl. 2x RK 1L41 : booked for load 12 incl. 2x RK 1L42 : booked for load 12 incl. 2x RK 1L43 : booked for load 12 incl. 2x RK 1L44 : booked for load 12 (Pullmans) 1L76 : booked for load 12 (Pullmans) 1Z19 : booked for load 12 (Tyne Tees Pullman stock) 1Z49 : booked for load 11 incl. 2x RK |
Route : 1L30 throughout
Loco(s) | Route |
electric | Liverpool Lime Street - Runcorn - Weaver Jn - (via WCML, Trent Valley & Weedon) - London Euston |
electric | London Euston - (reverse of outward route) - Liverpool Lime Street |
Route : 1L31 throughout
Loco(s) | Route |
electric | Liverpool Lime Street - Runcorn - Weaver Jn - (via WCML, Trent Valley & Weedon) - London Euston |
electric | London Euston - (reverse of outward route) - Liverpool Lime Street |
Route : 1L33 throughout
Loco(s) | Route |
electric | Liverpool Lime Street - Runcorn - Weaver Jn - (via WCML, Trent Valley & Weedon) - London Euston |
electric | London Euston - (reverse of outward route) - Rugby - Coventry - Birmingham New Street - Dudley Port - Wolverhampton - Stafford - (reverse of outward route) - Liverpool Lime Street |
Route : 1L34 throughout
Loco(s) | Route |
electric | Liverpool Lime Street - Runcorn - Weaver Jn - (via WCML, Trent Valley & Weedon) - London Euston |
electric | London Euston - (reverse of outward route) - Rugby - Coventry - Birmingham New Street - Dudley Port - Wolverhampton - Stafford - (reverse of outward route) - Liverpool Lime Street |
Route : 1L35 throughout
Loco(s) | Route |
electric | Liverpool Lime Street - Runcorn - Weaver Jn - (via WCML, Trent Valley & Weedon) - London Euston |
electric | London Euston - (reverse of outward route) - Rugby - Coventry - Birmingham New Street - Dudley Port - Wolverhampton - Stafford - (reverse of outward route) - Liverpool Lime Street |
Route : 1L38 throughout
Loco(s) | Route |
electric | Liverpool Lime Street - Runcorn - Weaver Jn - (via WCML, Trent Valley & Weedon) - Wembley Central |
electric | Wembley Central - (reverse of outward route) - Liverpool Lime Street |
Route : 1L39 throughout
Loco(s) | Route |
electric | Liverpool Lime Street - Runcorn - Weaver Jn - (via WCML, Trent Valley & Weedon) - Wembley Central |
electric | Wembley Central - (reverse of outward route) - Liverpool Lime Street |
Route : 1L40 throughout
Loco(s) | Route |
electric | Liverpool Lime Street - Runcorn - Weaver Jn - (via WCML, Trent Valley & Weedon) - Wembley Central |
electric | Wembley Central - (reverse of outward route) - Liverpool Lime Street |
Route : 1L41 throughout
Loco(s) | Route |
electric | Liverpool Lime Street - Runcorn - Weaver Jn - (via WCML, Trent Valley & Weedon) - Wembley Central |
electric | Wembley Central - (reverse of outward route) - Liverpool Lime Street |
Route : 1L42 throughout
Loco(s) | Route |
electric | Liverpool Lime Street - Runcorn - Weaver Jn - (via WCML, Trent Valley & Weedon) - Wembley Central |
electric | Wembley Central - (reverse of outward route) - Liverpool Lime Street |
Route : 1L43 throughout
Loco(s) | Route |
electric | Liverpool Lime Street - Runcorn - Weaver Jn - (via WCML, Trent Valley & Weedon) - Wembley Central |
electric | Wembley Central - (reverse of outward route) - Liverpool Lime Street |
Route : 1L44 throughout
Loco(s) | Route |
electric | Liverpool Lime Street - Runcorn - Weaver Jn - (via WCML, Trent Valley & Weedon) - Wembley Central |
electric | Wembley Central - (reverse of outward route) - Liverpool Lime Street |
Route : 1L76 throughout
Loco(s) | Route |
electric | Manchester Piccadilly - ??? - Crewe - (via WCML, Trent Valley & Weedon) - Wembley Central |
electric | Wembley Central - (reverse of outward route) - Manchester Piccadilly |
Route : 1Z19 throughout
Loco(s) | Route |
diesel | Newcastle - ??? - Market Harborough - Northampton - Bletchley - Watford Junction - Wembley Central |
diesel | Wembley Central - (reverse of outward route) - Newcastle |
Route : 1Z49 throughout
Loco(s) | Route |
diesel | Newcastle - ??? - Market Harborough - Northampton - Bletchley - Watford Junction - Wembley Central |
diesel | Wembley Central - (reverse of outward route) - Newcastle |
Notes :
(1) Plus electric dead-in-tow (diesel drag due to engineering works).
(1) Route & loco confirmation required - approx 30
trains ran. Details all taken from STN.
Source : Phil Moone
Timings (Booked Only)
(from Phil Moone)
Location | 1L30 | 1L31 | |||
Booked (out) |
Booked (rtn) |
Booked (out) |
Booked (rtn) |
||
Liverpool Lime Street |
??.??d |
??.??a |
??.??d |
??.??d |
|
Crewe |
07/52 |
21/34 |
08/05 |
21/40 |
|
Stafford |
08/13 |
21/12½ |
08/24 |
21/15½ |
|
Tamworth |
08/30 |
20/50 |
08/41 |
20/54 |
|
Rugby |
08/56 |
20/25 |
09/05 |
20/32 |
|
Weedon |
09/05½ |
20/12 |
09/14½ |
20/19 |
|
Bletchley |
09/22 |
19/56 |
09/31 |
20/03 |
|
Watford Junction |
09/42½ |
19/34½ |
09/51½ |
19.41½ |
|
Euston |
10.00a |
19.15d |
10.09a |
19.25a |
Location | 1L33 |
1L34 |
1L35 |
|||||
Booked (out) |
Booked (rtn) |
Booked (out) |
Booked (rtn) |
Booked (out) |
Booked (rtn) |
|||
Liverpool Lime Street |
??.??d |
??.??a |
??.??d |
??.??a |
??.??d |
??.??a |
||
Crewe |
08/16 |
03c07 ~ 03c08 |
08/30 |
22/54 |
08/40 |
22/44 |
||
Stafford |
08/37 |
02/43 |
08/49 |
22/32 |
09/00 |
22/22 |
||
Tamworth |
08/54 |
- |
09/06 |
- |
09/17 |
- | ||
Wolverhampton | - |
02/19 |
- |
22/16 |
- |
22/04 |
||
Dudley Port |
02/12 |
- |
22/10 |
- |
21/58 |
|||
Soho South Jn | - |
02/06 |
- |
22/04 |
- |
21/52 |
||
Birmingham New Street | - |
02/01 |
- |
22/00 |
- |
21/48 |
||
Coventry | - |
01/40 |
- |
21/41 |
- |
21/31 |
||
Rugby |
09/19 |
01/30 |
09/30 |
21/32 |
09/41 |
21/22 |
||
Weedon |
09/28½ |
01/12 |
09/39½ |
21/19 |
09/50½ |
21/09 |
||
Bletchley |
09/45 |
00/47 |
09/56 |
21/03 |
10/07 |
20/53 |
||
Watford Junction |
10/05½ |
00/11½ Sun |
10/16½ |
20/41½ |
10/27½ |
20/31½ |
||
Euston |
10.23a |
23.55d |
10.34a |
20.25a |
10.45a |
20.15d |
Location |
1L38 |
1L39 |
1L40 |
|||||
Booked (out) |
Booked (rtn) |
Booked (out) |
Booked (rtn) |
Booked (out) |
Booked (rtn) | |||
Liverpool Lime Street |
??.??d |
??.??a |
??.??d |
??.??a |
??.??d |
??.??a | ||
Crewe | 09/30 | 20/27 |
09c48 ~ 09c50 |
21c18 ~ 21c20 |
10c08 ~ 10c10 |
21c13 ~ 21c15 | ||
Stafford | 09/49 | 20/05½ |
10/09½ |
20/57½ |
10/30 |
20/53½ | ||
Tamworth | 10/06 | 19/45 |
10/26½ |
20/37 |
10/48 |
20/33 | ||
Rugby | 10/31 | 19/25 |
10/50 |
20/17 |
11/12 |
20/13 | ||
Weedon | 10/40½ | 19/14 |
10/59½ |
20/06 |
11/21½ |
20/02 | ||
Hanslope Jn | ? | ? |
11/09 |
? |
11x31 SL |
? | ||
Bletchley | 10/57 | 18/58 |
11/16 |
19/47 |
11/38 |
19/43 | ||
Watford Junction | 11/22 [SL] | 18/34 [FL] |
11/39 [SL] |
19/11 |
12/06 |
19/03 | ||
Wembley Central | 11.30a | 18.25d [US platform] |
11.51a |
19.00d [SL] |
12.15a |
18.50d [US platform] |
Location |
1L41 |
1L42 |
1L43 |
|||||
Booked (out) |
Booked (rtn) |
Booked (out) |
Booked (rtn) |
Booked (out) |
Booked (rtn) | |||
Liverpool Lime Street |
??.??a |
??.??a |
??.??d |
??.??a |
??.??d |
??.??a | ||
Crewe |
10c24 ~ 10c25 |
20c38 ~ 20c40 |
10c48 ~ 10c50 |
20c20 ~ 20c23 | 11/08 | 20/06 | ||
Stafford |
1044 |
20/18½ |
11/09 |
19/57½ | 11/30½ | 19/42½ | ||
Tamworth |
11/01½ |
19/58 |
11/27½ |
19/34 | 11/47½ | 19/22 | ||
Rugby |
11/26 |
19/38 |
11/51 |
19/14 | 12/11 | 19/02 | ||
Weedon |
11/35½ |
19/27 |
12/00½ |
19/03 | 12/20½ | 18/51 | ||
Hanslope Jn |
11/45 |
? |
12/10 |
? | ? | ? | ||
Bletchley |
11/52 |
19/11 |
12/17 |
18/47 | 12/37 | 18/35½ | ||
Watford Junction |
12x17 [SL] |
18/47 [FL] |
12x42 [SL] |
18/21 | 13/06 [SL] | 18/09 | ||
Wembley Central |
12.25d |
18.37d [SL] |
12.50a |
18.12d [US platform] | 13.14a | 18.00d [US platform] |
Location |
1L44 |
|
Booked (out) |
Booked (rtn) | |
Liverpool Lime Street | ??.??d | ??.??a |
Crewe | 11/32 | 19c51 ~ 19c53 |
Stafford | 11/51 | 19/31½ |
Tamworth | 12/07 | 19/11 |
Rugby | 12/29 | 18/51 |
Weedon | 12/38 | 18/40 |
Hanslope Jn | ? | ? |
Bletchley | 12/54 | 18/24 |
Watford Junction | 13/22 [SL] | 18/00 [FL] |
Wembley Central | 13.30a | 17.50d [US platform] |
Location |
1L76 |
|
Booked (out) |
Booked (rtn) |
|
Manchester Piccadilly |
??.??d |
??.??a |
Crewe |
11/04 |
19/50 |
Stafford |
11/23 |
19/28½ |
Tamworth |
11/39 |
19/06 |
Rugby |
12/01 |
18/46 |
Weedon |
12/10 |
18/35 |
Bletchley |
12/26 |
18/20 |
Watford Junction |
12/50 [SL] |
17/56 [FL] |
Wembley Central |
13.00a |
17.45d |
Location |
1Z19 |
1Z49 |
|||
Booked (out) |
Booked (rtn) |
Booked (out) |
Booked (rtn) | ||
Newcastle |
??.??d |
??.??a |
??.??a |
??.??a | |
Northampton | 13c08 ~ 13c10 | 18c44 ~ 18c46 | 12c50 ~ 12c52 | 19c00 ~ 19c02 | |
Hanslope Jn | 13/20 [FL] | 18/34 | 13/02 [SL] | 18/50 | |
Bletchley | 13/27 | 18/27½ | 13/09 | 18/43 | |
Watford Junction | 13/52 [FL] | 18/05 [FL] | 13/37 | 18/14 | |
Wembley Central | 14.00a | 17.55d [SL] | 13.47a | 18.05d [SL] |