30th September 1978
Locomotive Club of Great
Britain (North West Branch)
Ayrshire & Galloway Rail Tour
Locos Used | 25021, 40171, 40191, 84002 & 84003 |
Route :
Loco(s) | Route |
84002 | Crewe - (via WCML) - Winwick Jn - Earlstown - Newton-le-Willows Jn - Lowton Jn - Golborne Jn - (via WCML) - Carlisle |
40171 + 40191 | Carlisle - Dumfries - Mauchline - Kilmarnock - Barassie Jn - (via Troon avoiding line) - Lochgreen Jn - Ayr - Barrhill - Stranraer |
25021 | shunt release of the stock at Stranraer (2) |
40171 + 40191 | Stranraer - Barrhill - Ayr - Lochgreen Jn - Troon - Barrasie Jn - Dalry - Elderslie (3) - Paisley Gilmour Street - (3) Shield Jn - Glasgow Central |
84003 | Glasgow Central - (via WCML) - Gretna Jn - (reverse of outward route) - Crewe |
Notes :
(1) Jeremy Hartill comments: 84002 gave us a typical 90mph 84 run north, with a
minimum of 70mph on Shap. It could not even manage more than 90 dropping down
into Carlisle from Penrith. Leaving Carlisle there was a stop before Gretna Jn
to sort an AWS fault on 40191. The return behind 84003 was another 90mph run but
not a bad one, Glasgow to Carlisle took 82m 42s instead of the 105 min booked
74.1 mph average.
(2) 25021 was used to haul the stock from Stranraer station to Harbour Jn (and
presumably back again) to permit release of the class 40s.
(3) Was booked via Paisley Canal.
A tour ticket courtesy of Neville Bond
Sources : David Hills (joined/left the train at Crewe)
& Jeremy Hartill
Tour Review
With the writing on the wall for the North British built Class 84's, the chance to notch up some considerable mileage behind them, throw in a pair of Class 40's over some Scottish trackage that was not well covered by me, was quickly seized, the check was in the mail with the booking form before we even knew if there was money in the bank account. The day dawned promising, or so we were led to believe as it was pitch black when we left Derby in the venerable Hillman Hunter for the dash west along the A50 through Stoke and into Crewe.
The large mass of muddy brown water that was impersonating a car park near Crewe Station revealed possibly a wet day ahead though streaks of sun were to be seen if one looked carefully into the overcast. Three pairs of wet feet located the correct platform with its attendant rake of Mark 1's and the obligatory 84002 on the front. The locomotive had obviously seen a paintbrush recently and with all the recent liquid sunshine the paintwork fairly glistened. The thrash up the WCML was standard treatment for the first leg of the tour. By the time we had reached Preston an example of each class of WCML electric had been noted thus: 81010 (Preston), 82004 (Preston), 83009 (Crewe), 85009 (Crewe), 86024 (Warrington) & 87101 (Wigan). The diesels were also well represented with a fine selection of Classes 25 & 40 to choose from.
At Carlisle where the weather had broken up a little the electric was replaced in favour of 40171 & 40191 for the jaunt round south-west Scotland. Classic traction in the station was 25046, 37079, 40037, 81002 with a similar mix noted at Kingmoor. Leaving the WCML for the Glasgow & South Western route brought the corresponding reduction in sightings with only 08419, 25104 & 25244 noted at Dumfries. In the face of an increasing sou'wester the train swung towards Ayr under darkening storm clouds. Amongst the sea of DMU's here were some fine McDiesels: 20106, 20206, 27025/044. Further south vague memories exist of a photo stop, no doubt at the height of the gale. The run down to Stranraer found the harbour filled with considerable swells and black scudding clouds racing across the sky. For those that stayed on the train an added bonus was haulage from 25021 which was used to release the Type 4's. With the power re-attached it was throttles a-weigh as we headed back to Ayr and onto the afternoon delights of Glasgow Central. With a good break here the opportunity was taken to capture some of the local traction on film, made somewhat easier by the much sunnier weather here. Amidst the sea of multiple units the only diesel of note was 20222. Departure time brought the sight of a clean 84003 backing on to the stock for the run up to Crewe.
The return trip was without incident, 84003 performing well, numbers in the book reflecting little unusual activity apart from bankers 20085, 20137 & 20212 at Beattock.
Source : David Hills (On train from/to Crewe)
Timings (Booked Only)
(from Jeremy Hartill)
Location | Booked (out) | Booked (rtn) |
Crewe | 07.23d | 22.51a |
Hartford | ??.??a ~ 07.36d | 22.36a ~ ??.??d |
Warrington Bank Quay | ??.??a ? 07.47d | 22.22a ~ ??.??d |
Earlstown | ??.??a ~ 07.55d | 22.14a ~ ??.??d |
Wigan North Western | ??.??a ~ 08.08d | 21.50a ~ ??.??d |
Preston | ??.??a ~ 08.23d | 21.32a ~ ??.??d |
Lancaster | ??.??a ~ 08.45d | 21.09a ~ ??.??d |
Penrith | ??.??a ~ 09.30d | 20.27a ~ ??.??d |
Carlisle | ??L??a ~ 09L59d | 20.05a ~ 20.07d |
Gretna Jn | 10/09 | 19/57 |
Location | Booked |
Annan | 10/22 |
Dumfries | 10/40 |
Thornhill | 10/56 |
Sanquhar | 11/10 |
New Cumnock | 11/21 |
Mauchline | 11/32 |
Kilmarnock | 11/41 |
Barassie | 11/54 |
Ayr | 12.04a ~ 12.06d |
Girvan | 12p33a ~ 12p40d |
Pinwherry | 12/57 |
Barrhill | 13/06 |
Glenwhilly | 13/20 |
Stranraer | 13.43a ~ 14.45d |
Glenwhilly | 15/13 |
Barrhill | 15/27 |
Pinwherry | 15/33 |
Girvan | 15.50a ~ 15.58d |
Ayr | 16.28a ~ 16.33d |
Barassie | 16/43 |
Dalry | 16/56 |
Elderslie | 17/14 |
Paisley Canal | 17/20 |
Shield Jn | 17/28 |
Glasgow Central | 18.20a ~ 18.35d |
Motherwell | 18/35 |
Carstairs | 18/58 |
Beattock Summit | 19/18 |
Beattock | 19/19 |
Lockerbie | 19/39 |
Timings continue in first table.
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