23rd October 2004
Pathfinder Tours
The Cumbrian Mountain Express
| Locos Used | 67005 & steam: 45407 (running as 44996) |
| Stock Used | ????? |
Route:
1Z75 : Derby to Carlisle
1Z76 : Carlisle to Derby
Loco(s) Route 67005 Derby - North Stafford Jn - Uttoxeter - Stoke-on-Trent - Macclesfield - Cheadle Hulme - Stockport - Manchester Piccadilly - Castlefield Jn - Salford Crescent - Bolton - Chorley - Euxton Jn - Preston - (via WCML) - Carlisle 45407 (1) Carlisle - (via S&C) - Hellifield - Clitheroe - Blackburn 67005 Blackburn - Farington Jn - Euxton Jn - (reverse of outward route) - Derby
Notes :
(1) 67005 on rear.
Sources : various
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Brief Review
(by Duncan Jennings)
A pretty good day all in all despite starting about 80 late after the trainman failed to appear and we had to get a spare man taxi'd in from Crewe.

67005 on arrival into Carlisle (photo: Duncan Jennings)
Still, more farcical Notwork Snail timings and a good performance from 67005 left us only a little late leaving Carlisle where the single kettle (advertised a pair) proved to be ill equipped to keep time with load 10 + a dead 67 (ETHing merrily) and proceeded to lose more time. Still there was time (for a pint) in hand at Appleby and we left bang on time and promptly lost 12 minutes going up Ais Gill - it was a good noisy slog and Uncle Dick proudly declared it was probably the heaviest train taken up there by a single Black 5 in recent years, but it just served to underline the superiority of the diesel ticking over on the back end for me.

45407 (running as 44996) at Appleby (photo: Duncan Jennings)
Anyway, whatever your view we swapped back to the purple engine at Blackburn and headed back to Derby pulling back more time before a signal check outside Derby left us about 15 late at the finish. I've now had over 800 miles off 67005, about 650 of them on 2 steam tours ! Wonder if I'll clear it next year?
Duncan Jennings
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Timings (Booked & some Actuals)
(booked courtesy of Pathfinder
Tours, actuals from Duncan Jennings)
| M.C | Location | Booked | Actual | Booked | Actual | M.C | |
| 0.00 | Derby | 07.02d | ? | 22.53a | ? | 112.34 | |
| 4.64 | Stenson Jn | 07/09 | ? | 21/21 | ? | 107.50 | |
| 5.28 | North Stafford Jn | 07/10 | ? | 21/19 | 21/31 | 107.06 | |
| 11.25 | Tutbury & Hatton | 07.19a ~ 07.21d | ? | 21.10a ~ 21.12d | ??.?? ~ 21.24 | 101.09 | |
| 19.09 | Uttoxeter | 07.31a ~ 07.33d | ??.?? ~ 08.50 | 20.58a ~ 21.00d | 21.11 ~ 21.12 | 93.25 | |
| 30.19 | Blythe Bridge | 07.47a ~ 07.49d | ??.?? ~ 09.02 | 20.44a ~ 20.46d | 20.56 ~ 20.58 | 82.15 | |
| 31.22 | Caverswall | 07/52 | ? | 20/42 | ? | 81.12 | |
| 33.47 | Longton | 07/55 | ? | 20/38 | ? | 78.67 | |
| 35.41 | Stoke Jn | 07/58 | ? | 20/35 | ? | 76.73 | |
| 35.74 | Stoke-on-Trent | 08.00a ~ 08.02d | ??.?? ~ 09.20 | 20.31a ~ 20.33d | 20.41 ~ 20.43 | 76.40 | |
| 42.25 | Kidsgrove | 08/10 | 09/30 | 20/24 | ? | 70.09 | |
| 47.79 | Congleton | 08.16a ~ 08.18d | ??.?? ~ 09.36 | 20.09a ~ 20.11d | 20.28 ~ 20.29 | 64.35 | |
| 55.71 | Macclesfield | 08.29a ~ 08.31d | 09.46 ~ 09.47 | 19.57a ~ 19.59d | 20.16 ~ 20.19 | 56.43 | |
| 65.47 | Cheadle Hulme | 08/42 | 10/03 | 19/46 | ? | 46.67 | |
| 66.42 | Adswood Road Jn | 08/43 | ? | 19/45 | ? | 45.72 | |
| 67.32 | Edgeley Jn No.1 | 08/48 | 10/05 | 19/44 | ? | 45.02 | |
| 67.77 | Stockport | 08.50a ~ 08.52d | ??.?? ~ 10.12 | 19.40a ~ 19.42d | 20.01 ~ 20.03 | 44.37 | |
| 68.52 | Heaton Norris North Jn | 08/54 | 10/17 | 19/39 | ? | 43.62 | |
| 71.42 | Slade Lane Jn | 08/57 | ? | 19/36 | ? | 40.72 | |
| 73.09 | Ardwick Jn | 08/59 | ? | 19/34 | ? | 39.25 | |
| 73.67 | Manchester Piccadilly | 09.02a ~ 09.04d | 10.21 ~ 10.23 | 19.29a ~ 19.31d | 19.47 ~ 19.50 | 38.47 | |
| 74.30 | Manchester Oxford Road | 09/07 | 10/25 | 19/27 | 19/43 | 38.04 | |
| 74.59 | Deansgate | 09/09 | 10/26 | 19/26 | 19/42 | 37.55 | |
| 74.69 | Castlefield Jn | 09/10 | ? | 19/25 | ? | 37.45 | |
| 75.30 | Ordsall Lane Jn | 09/11 | ? | 19/24 | ? | 37.04 | |
| 76.12 | Salford Crescent | 09/13 | 10/29 | 19/21 | 19/38 | 36.22 | |
| 83.37 | Moses Gate | 09/22 | 10/36 | - | 19/32 | - | |
| 84.35 | Burnden DPL | 09*25a ~ 09*53d | ? | - | - | - | |
| 85.01 | Bolton | 09.57a ~ 09.59d | 10.39 ~ 10.40 | 19.04a ~ 19.07d | ??.?? ~ 19.29 | 27.33 | |
| 87.70 | Lostock Jn | 10/04 | ? | 19/00 | 19/22 | 24.44 | |
| 96.47 | Chorley | 10/19 | 10/55 | 18/50 | 19/14 | 15.67 | |
| 99.61 | Euxton Jn | 10/23 | 11/00 | 18/45 | 19/11 | 12.53 |
| M.C/ | Location | Booked | Actual |
| 105.17 | Preston | 10.30a ~ 11.09d | 11.12 ~ ??.?? |
| 126.15 | Lancaster | 11/28 | 11/47 |
| 128.07 | Morecambe South Jn | 11/29 | ? |
| 132.23 | Carnforth North Jn | 11/32 | 11/51 |
| 145.23 | Oxenholme Lake District | 11/43 | 12/02 |
| 157.72 | Tebay | 11/56 | 12/11 |
| 177.35 | Penrith North Lakes | 12/14 | 12/29 |
| 195.24 0.00 |
Carlisle | 12L30a ~ 13L20d | 12.43 ~ (13.35) |
| 0.53 | London Road Jn | 13/22 | ? |
| 0.72 | Petteril Bridge Jn | 13/23 | ? |
| 8.29 | Low House SB | 13/46 | 13/58 |
| 23.29 | Culgaith | 14/11 | ? |
| 26.02 | Kirby Thore SB | 14/15 | ? |
| 30.62 | Appleby | 14w25a ~ 15w25d | ??.?? ~ 15.25 |
| 41.44 | Kirkby Stephen | 15/45 | 15/46 |
| 51.29 | Garsdale | 16/02 | 16/14 |
| 59.45 | Blea Moor | 16/14 | 16/27 |
| 60.64 | Ribblehead | 16/17 | ? |
| 73.44 | Settle Jn | 16/37 | 16/48 |
| 75.43 | Long Preston | 16w42a ~ 17w12d | 16.54 ~ 17.10 |
| 76.69 | Hellifield | 17/17 | 17.20 ~ 17.23 |
| 89.77 | Horrocksford Jn | 17/35 | ? |
| 90.17 | Clitheroe | 17/37 | 17/52 |
| 100.48 | Daisyfield Jn | 17/58 | 18/16 |
| 101.15 0.00 |
Blackburn | 18L00a ~ 18L25d | 18.19 ~ 18.53 |
| 9.00 | Lostock Hall Jn | 18/35 | ? |
| 9.77 | Farington Jn | 18/41 | ? |
Timings continue in first table.
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