5th October 1974

Talyllyn Railway Preservation Society
Cambrian Express (AGM Special)

Locos Used 24053, 24083, 86012 & steam: 1 'Talyllyn', 2 'Dolgoch' & 10
Stock Used on BR: Booked for load 13, consisting: BSK+ 5x SK + RB + 2x SO + FK + FSK + BSK + FK

Route : 1L05 throughout

Loco(s) Route
86012 London Euston - (via WCML, Weedon) - Rugby - Coventry - Stechford - Proof House Jn - Birmingham New Street - Soho South Jn - Dudley Port - Wolverhampton
24083 + 24053 Wolverhampton - Cosford - Wellington - Abbey Foregate Jn - English Bridge Jn - Sutton Bridge Jn - Welshpool - Machynlleth - Dovey Junction - Tywyn (1) - Barmouth - Harlech - Minffordd (2) - Portmadoc - Pwllheli
24053 + 24083 Pwllheli - (reverse of outward route) - Wolverhampton
86012 Wolverhampton - (reverse of outward route) - London Euston

Talyllyn Railway

Portion Loco(s) Route
combined 1 + 2 Tywyn Wharf - Tywyn Pendre - Brynglas - Dolgoch
combined 1 + 2 Dolgoch - Brynglas - Tywyn Pendre (3)
1 1 (1) Tywyn Pendre - Tywyn Wharf
2 2? (1) Tywyn Pendre - Tywyn Wharf

Ffestiniog Railway

Loco(s) Route
10 Minffordd - Tan-y-Bwlch - Ddaullt
10 Ddaullt - Tan-y-Bwlch - Minffordd

Notes :
(1) For visit to Talyllyn Railway.
(2) For visit to Ffestiniog Railway.
(3) The timing sheet shows the train splitting at
Tywyn Pendre on the return leg. Alan Osborn travelled in behind loco 1 on one portion, presumably the other portion used loco 2? The trains arrived back at 13.20 & 13.31 respectively, however the first arrival (13.20) was described as 'tour B' in the records now owned by John Debens.

Source : Alan Osborn

Timings (Booked & Actual)
(from Alan Osborn & John Debens)

Location Booked Actual   Booked Actual
Euston 06.45d 06.51   22.56a 23.22
Willesden Junction 06/51½ 06/58   22/49 23/15
Watford Junction 07.00½a ~ 07.01½d 07.07 ~ 07.09   22.35a ~ 22.36d 23.04 ~ 23.06
Berkhamstead 07.10a ~ 07.11d 07.18 ~ 07.19   22.25a ~ 22.26d 22.52 ~ 22.55
Tring 07/16 07/23   22/21½ 22/45
Bletchley 07/26½ 07/33   22/11½ 22/31
Hanslope 07/33 07/38   22/05 ?
Weedon 07/42 07/48   21/56 ?
Rugby 07/52½ 07/57   21/47 22/07
Coventry 08/00½ 08/05   21/35½ 22/00
Proof House Jn 08/19½ 08/19   21/22½ 21/3
Birmingham New Street 08.22a ~ 08.25d 08.22 ~ 08.25   21.17a ~ 21.20d 21.27 ~ 21.31
Soho South Jn 08/30 08/30   21/12 21/24
Galton 08/33 08/31   21/07½ 21/22
Dudley Port 08/36 08/35   21/04½ 21/18½
Wolverhampton 08L42a ~ 08L51d 08.43 ~ 08.55   20L49a ~ 20L58d 21.03 ~ 21.12
Cosford 09/01 09/06   20/38½ 20/51½
Wellington 09/11 09/17   20/22½ 20/40
Abbey Foregate Curve 09c25 ~ 09c27 09.29 ~ 09.31   20c13 ~ 20c15 20.25 ~ 20.27
English Bridge 09/29 09/32   20/11 20.21 ~ 20.24
Sutton Bridge Jn 09/31 09/34   20/09 20/18
Westbury 09/47 09/50   19/55 20/06
Welshpool 09/58½ 10/02   19/42 19/53
Newtown 10/15½ 10/23   19x22½ ~ 19x25½ 19.25 ~ 19.33
Caersws 10/23½ 10/32   19/15 19/16
Talerddig 10/36 10/44   19/04½ 19/05
Cemmaes Road 10x48½ ~ 10x58½ 10.59 ~ 11.05   18/46 18/45
Machynlleth 11c06 ~ 11c08 11.12 ~ 11.14   18c35 ~ 18c37 18.35 ~ 18.37
Dovey Junction 11/15 11/21   18/28 18/26
Tywyn 11.36a 11.40   18.07d 18.07
see below for Talyllyn Railway timings

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Tywyn 13.20d 13.43   17.46a 17.39
Barmouth 13/45½ 14/05   17x17 ~ 17x20 17.13 ~ 17.15
Harlech 14x05 ~ 14x10 14/20   16/47½ 16/55
Minffordd 14.25a 14.30   16.35d 16.41
see below for Ffestiniog Railway timings -
Minffordd 14.30d ?   16.32a ?
Portmadoc 14/33½ ?   16.25 ~ 16.28 ?
Criccieth 14/44 ?   16/16½ ?
Pwllheli 14.59a ?   16.00d ?

Taylyllyn Railway:

  Combined   Combined   1st portion 2nd portion
Location Booked Actual   Booked Actual   Booked Actual Booked Actual
Tywyn Wharf 11.50d 11.56   - -   13.02a 13.20 13.11a 13.31
Tywyn Pendre ? ?   ??.??a ?   ??.??d ? ??.??d ?
Dolgoch 12.10a 12.26   12.35d 12.52   - - - -

Ffestiniog Railway:

Location Booked Actual   Booked Actual
Minffordd 14.40d 14.56   16.20a 16.30
Tan-y-Bwlch ? ?   ??x?? ~ ??x?? ??x?? ~ ??x??
Ddaullt 15.20a 15.40   15.45d 15.45


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